Casinos

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I <3 anything that takes PP out of the economy. Nilbog and I are big fans of fighting inflation.

Make a single NPC that sells a guise of the deceiver for 1 million plat.

[Orruar]

To all those who think this won't hurt server population, you're wrong. Earlier there were over 1.1 billion people on beta. I just logged in and now there are -33 million. This ban has already crippled the player base.

[JayN]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pras gm staff! one less RMT scammer

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by zforrestal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could look at it this way as well. Gambling is : "to play a game in which you can win or lose money or possessions.." (Looked up on Merriam more definitions if you so please) so no gambling actually goes down within EQ unless you give an actual value to Plat or items (which in this case are just pixels with no tangible existence). The problem isn't casinos the problem is giving Value to said pixels, and by enforcing a BAN on casinos you also reinforce that these pixels have monetary value.

Do you honestly think you are going to lawyer them into reversing the decision?

[zforrestal]

Nope, why waste my breath? Cuz I can

[heartbrand]

lol typical american style rulemaking, people too dumb to take care of themselves so big brother needs to step in. sad.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you ever played a card game with friends for money? Made Bets etc? If so, that's illegal. You're not going to have the police knocking down your door for it though.

This is a great analogy, and more or less what I had stated earlier, just phrased in a way that's less vague.

I personally will be looking for specific things in regards to violations of this rule. The reason I'm not releasing this criteria is so that shady people can't circumvent it. Don't run a casino, dont advertise gambling, and don't be a central source for an inordinate amount of bets for in game platinum/items, and you will be fine.

Originally Posted by zforrestal

You're right, but people "petitioned" against casinos so we'd voicing our opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE else on the topic at hand. I'm sorry I didn't know we had to just shut up about the issue and not voice our opinions.. I've tried to be as polite as possible and yet all I see is a bunch of bigotry when it comes to people stating they don't like the idea of the ban.

This honestly has far less to do with the casino ban than you think it does. The bottom line is if we didn't think it was serious, we wouldn't be enforcing a ban. I can tell you that it's enough of a problem that it had to be dealt with.

Also, as a side note:

Originally Posted by zforrestal

"to play a game in which you can win or lose money or possessions.." (Looked up on Merriam more definitions if you so please) so no gambling actually goes down within EQ unless you give an actual value to Plat or items (which in this case are just pixels with no tangible existence).

There are some people who have paid hundreds of dollars for their characters and pixels who would beg to differ that platinum doesn't have real world value.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before attacking someone's reading comprehension how about you understand and read the post you so oppose.

And so a few pages later we learn that in fact scamming is not the primary reason for this ban, but RMT money funneling is. I'll buy you a jump-to-conclusions mat in celebration.

[Fountree]

I'm a bit upset at this ban primarily because it takes away another thing people could have fun with to pass the time on a server with a dwindling amount of things to do/accomplish. It really hits at player freedom...again. Feel bad for the new guys trying to make a buck and have a laugh in EC. Oh well, it's over, let's move on and hope that the elimination of this distraction for the GM/staff can help the server focus on getting velious out in a timely fashion.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make a single NPC that sells a guise of the deceiver for 1 million plat.

Great idea in principle. But very limitted ppl currently could get.

Dalaya had similar idea for charms. And it led to a new group of farmers, farming for charms. It really didnt help take plat out of economy quite like they planned.

Any good reward is going to increase # ppl farming. And increase items and plat in economy overall.

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