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Old 06-19-2014, 11:27 AM
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if the technology theoretically could have existed in 1999 its classic
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:42 AM
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LMFAO I just explained what the DLL hook does! You fucking kids are hilarious you don't understand masking spoofing, ghosting. Saying I'm dumb and like a troll of lemmings yet can't refute anything I said!

Because you don't understand what I'm talking about! A former dev even confirms it and still you idiots try to jump down a black hole of trolling not even realizing that your making yourselves look like idiots!
God damn you're dumb. Nobody is calling you an idiot because of anything related to DLL hooks. People are calling you an idiot because of the retarded things you said about how VPNs work.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:51 AM
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BUT THE WORLD LOADS FROM CLIENT SIDE AND THE MOBS LOAD FROM SERVER SIDE THUS A VPN DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE OF TRACEROUTE!!
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:53 AM
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Hahaha Syft backpedaling so fucking hard after spouting off complete and utter bullshit about why a VPN doesn't work.

GHOSTING! SPOOFING!! MASKING!!! If I randomly interject these into a sentence enough maybe someone will think I know how to turn my computer on by myself! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:01 PM
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It's because of the DLL hook that a VPN does not work here you fucking idiot! All the DLL hook does is what a DEV can do manually, automatically!

that's why the VPN does not work you idiot! How slow do I have to say it for you to understand it!
Haha, backpedaling hard. Sorry, if you weren't such a total douchfag all the time I'd let it go.

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WTF are you talking about VPN this isn't the movie hackers, it's an MMO the mobs and players load from server side, not client. The server has to know your correct traceroute or mobs won't load.
Let's just dissect this little gem for a moment. It clearly has nothing to do with DLLs, and you speak specifically about how a VPN operates. More specifically how a magical "traceroute" operates. I am about 98% sure after reading JUST this part you have no idea how the internet actually works. The remaining 2% is removed with the next part of your post:

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You would have to hack the server literally to play on a banned IP or Mac, VPN IP masking does not work when the world loads from client and mobs load from server side.

Otherwise everyone would override the dual boxing rule by VPN masking IP or ghosting IP address.
Now we can talk a little more about what exactly you seem to think a VPN is, and what it is used for. You realize that a VPN is not an "IP masking" or "IP ghosting" software right? The fact your actual IP isn't exposed is just a side effect of how VPNs operate.

And you realize again that TONS OF FUCKING PEOPLE override the dual boxing rule by running a VM session on their PC and VPNing from it right?

Lastly I want to call out a particular statement because of its exceptional retardation factor.

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VPN IP masking does not work when the world loads from client and mobs load from server side.
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VPN IP masking does not work when the world loads from client and mobs load from server side.
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VPN IP masking does not work when the world loads from client and mobs load from server side.
What the fuck does this even mean? Seriously?
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:04 PM
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Do you understand what packet flow is? Or do you think you can get a package from UPS without giving them your address?

Internet connection is the same as a phone trace stay connected long enough you will be found.

There are ways around it but it would be irresponsible to explain them here.
God damn dude. You are dealing with an elf sim nerd forum full of IT pros. Just shut the fuck up already or you're going to get torn a new virtual asshole.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:09 PM
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I also laughed pretty hard when I read the whole 'VPNs don't work because of server and clients loading differently and traceroute.....'

Please explain in more detail, by all means Syft. Would love to read what you could re-hash from wikipedia/google about VPNs/packets/traceroute to make it sound like you know something without straight up copy pasting word for word wiki.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:15 PM
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Other times, it's a guild who lets one of their members get caught training, then publicly throws them under the bus while privately letting them play another account for the duration of their punishment.

Never underestimate people's determination to be pieces of shit.
LOL! It's the "account" that's banned right.

I'd think hacking or otherwise messing with the server would be the top priority for the CSR staff's investigations with RMT coming in at a way behind 2nd place.

Unless staff are trolling the RMT websites daily hoping for someone dumb enough to have an account on those sites with the same name as their p99 login. I bet it's happened.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:16 PM
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Oh man I took 2 minutes to take a leak and by time I posted people beat me to it oh well. Syft is just showing how little he knows. Either he truly believes this is how things operate or he is just tossing around a bunch of words to make it sound believable like he does in game with other things. But one place you are always going to be outnerded for sure is on a forums of a 15 year old elf sim that people play for fun, A lot of whom work in this line of business or have way more experience then you do in all things internet.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:20 PM
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VPN in a nutshell: an IP address is like a street address. Consider a VPN a P.O. box. It isn't where you live, but you can use it and get still get shit that's addressed to you, without anyone ever knowing your real address.

Now, that isn't the only purpose a VPN can serve, and not all VPNs actually do this. But for the purposes of this conversation, yeah. It's a thing. Neither difficult nor extraordinary. I have three VPNs I can and do connect to regularly, depending on the need. One of them gives me an IP address wherever the fuck I want it. One of them just lets me work on a website.
Really hard to find the guy with nearly the same name as his other chars on a 60-80 person server getting PL'd by his guildies 24-7 btw, right?


I'd much prefer Uthgaard as red server GM and Sirken/Derubael not having to split their focus. I know Sirken likes to be the head GM, and has pvp server background but pretty much anyone deserves a break from dealing with red + blue at the same time. Sirken's also done a pretty good job dealing with things here/promoting the server and defending it despite how he has to fight with one hand tied behind his back most of the time.

I'd say Uthgaard is uniquely qualified to deal with the average scum/lead a very zealous crusade to keep certain people from playing. Most people don't have that kind of patience and certainly don't get a thrill out of that kind of battle of the wills like he does.
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