EXP Re-Nerfed ROFL

[Squire]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Box was fun with exp, not so much now. Didn't want to jump in this QQ thread but, your response makes me want to put my two cents in. I'm not in high school/college anymore, I have a family and a full time job, and your senseless nerf (which it is) is only for the neckbeards. I don't have 1.5 hours to find a group and go to Seb/KC/COM, I'm not a solo class and once I get the group and to the xp location I don't have the three hours to grind. The fact that you didn't have a plan in place (if you had one it wouldn't be ever changing) when you implemented these changes is ignorant.

These changes are not for the casual player which made up that roughly 50% of the population (200 - 98 + or - Azrael boxed toons). The only time you see casuals are on repops (Sun) which makes your server thrive for one day. I'm sad to see this happen to our box but, the reason EQ failed was the amount of time required to play it (that's why WOW was a hit) and one really bad expansion.

Bottom line, QQ the box is less fun, I've been playing Teams (which is shaky but fun) because I can play it as a casual. Think more about the casuals and less about the Sickpuppys of the box.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Box was fun with exp, not so much now. Didn't want to jump in this QQ thread but, your response makes me want to put my two cents in. I'm not in high school/college anymore, I have a family and a full time job, and your senseless nerf (which it is) is only for the neckbeards. I don't have 1.5 hours to find a group and go to Seb/KC/COM, I'm not a solo class and once I get the group and to the xp location I don't have the three hours to grind. The fact that you didn't have a plan in place (if you had one it wouldn't be ever changing) when you implemented these changes is ignorant.

These changes are not for the casual player which made up that roughly 50% of the population (200 - 98 + or - Azrael boxed toons). The only time you see casuals are on repops (Sun) which makes your server thrive for one day. I'm sad to see this happen to our box but, the reason EQ failed was the amount of time required to play it (that's why WOW was a hit) and one really bad expansion.

Bottom line, QQ the box is less fun, I've been playing Teams (which is shaky but fun) because I can play it as a casual. Think more about the casuals and less about the Sickpuppys of the box.

I know this may be misconstrued, but maybe in this particular instance this just isn't the right server for you. I'm not advocating for the xp change (because I too think the implementation was handled poorly) but if your argument is you don't have the time to play on a server that is designed to emulate classic features in a way that no other does, you might just be playing in the wrong place. You obviously don't have time for the classic experience like you probably did 15 years ago. So rather than tell Project1999 that it needs to change to fit YOUR lifestyle, perhaps you just need to shop around and find a place that suits your needs.

That being said I wouldn't have argued against replacing the xp bonus with a group bonus at the same time. I too can't play like I did at 16, I'm just not expecting them to cater to my schedule.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know this may be misconstrued, but maybe in this particular instance this just isn't the right server for you. I'm not advocating for the xp change (because I too think the implementation was handled poorly) but if your argument is you don't have the time to play on a server that is designed to emulate classic features in a way that no other does, you might just be playing in the wrong place. You obviously don't have time for the classic experience like you probably did 15 years ago. So rather than tell Project1999 that it needs to change to fit YOUR lifestyle, perhaps you just need to shop around and find a place that suits your needs.

That being said I wouldn't have argued against replacing the xp bonus with a group bonus at the same time. I too can't play like I did at 16, I'm just not expecting them to cater to my schedule.

Then your population won't grow pal. Also, when did this server go classic?

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fact is, players needed to get off that easyxp addiction because it did nothing to help the servers community. and i know its really hard to go cold turkey, but in all honesty its better to get it over with and be done with it. the previous xp model did nothing to give incentives or perks for grouping, it did nothing to build a community, and it basically assured that if u came to this server on your own, you better play a class that can solo because you were gonna be on your own til about 46ish. no one on staff expects things to change over night, thats silly. but we all agree that if we are ever going to have a full range community, we must first ensure the building blocks are in place for players to successfully build that community. the previous xp model is just simply not the path that will take us where we need to go.

The response that they get tired of repeating themselves is so played out because people don't have a problem with remembering what you have said in the past. They want to hear what you guys are working on not just the response "it is something big and will be implemented at some point but we can't tell you anything". If you can't give any info on time horizon that is fine but give a general statement of what is being worked on.

The paragraph I quoted has been more telling than anything else written by the devs. Obviously the devs have a different idea of what helps red99 than the vocal majority on these forums. Unfortunate for me, hopefully it works for others. It at least confirms exp bonus isn't going to return.

[dethbringre]

I made it to 49 solo on my pally with exp bonus, he's still 49 now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Doors]

I think everyone would actually love to hear that story.

[heartbrand]

you say it doesn't help the community but yet today we had 160+ players, incredibly high morale, tons of people grouping and having FUN. Post xp nerf we now have people quitting, people going to LoZ, people saying fuck the server. This shit isn't rocket science.

[dethbringre]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say it doesn't help the community but yet today we had 160+ players, incredibly high morale, tons of people grouping and having FUN. Post xp nerf we now have people quitting, people going to LoZ, people saying fuck the server. This shit isn't rocket science.

It almost feels like this is sort of the plan, screw with Red enough to push us off on LoZ. I hate to say that but thats the way it seems as of right now, I hope it changes with this new announcement but who knows.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say it doesn't help the community but yet today we had 160+ players, incredibly high morale, tons of people grouping and having FUN. Post xp nerf we now have people quitting, people going to LoZ, people saying fuck the server. This shit isn't rocket science.

[LastBoss]

i made it to 55 yesterday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] got my 30% after beeing 54 for over 2.5weeks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
but hey im here for the pvp not pve so keep the xp like it is :P