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Old 04-18-2014, 11:13 AM
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:39 AM
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Okay, so we all know that the wonderful agreement we had for OOAs has devolved into the chaotic clickfest that we all know and hate. Our agreement was working so well that we all had at least 1 noble everyday and some days even 2. We kept that up for almost 2 months in and out due to server resets.

What is it going to take to return to getting a scheduled Noble again?

No one, in any class, can say they actually enjoy fighting like dogs over 1 noble per week and then seeing the general crap drops of efreeti legs staring back at you. People are finally getting Monk fists and warrior belts. Those items are good even in Velious and certainly necessary for early Velious raiding... I can't possibly imagine that Class C guilds are okay with throwing away all the extra opportunities to gear their guild when Winter is coming.

Can IB and TMO please chime in on what we need to do in order to get the system rolling again?
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:43 AM
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Problem with the Noble agreement is that it only takes one guild having a bad day to ruin it, like we have all come to see.
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:35 AM
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Problem with the Noble agreement is that it only takes one guild having a bad day to ruin it, like we have all come to see.
Well part of the question is whether or not Nobles and Overseers are considered raid targets. It seems logical that they should be, but the fact that Sirken is not posting in this forum with 'IB RAID SUSPENDED FOR XX YEARS' leads me to think that they are not. I guess we need a ruling there.

But maybe you are correct, and we simply have a critical mass of people that care too much to ever really have this kind of thing work.
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:08 AM
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That's also the solution Catherin, if things get messed up it only takes 1 guild to fix it. Ball's in their court to respond.
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:19 AM
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technically it doesn't take just one guild to fix it. it takes them all to fix it. if there are still some that wont cooperate it doesn't matter much what any one guild does. Someone else can kill the Overseers and end it.

As far as im concerned this was a 6 month experiment that has pretty much failed. Not saying we are unwilling to try to make it work again, but we are going to have to go back to the drawing board. it cant be how it was.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:30 AM
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That would mean we would need lockouts as well... I think 2 months of dedication to make this "experiment" work should be enough to show you, Deru and Sirken and Rogean, that we DO care enough about this mob and the drops he has to give it attention. I know Velious is like priority #1 in every regard, but some of the quest items in sky are extremely good even in Velious era. This HAS to be given some attention.


Until that time comes, let me see if we can get some clarity on what to do about the immediate.

TMO instigated an aggressive move against IB. IB retaliated and Taken seized an opportunity. If we can suppose for a moment that the agreement is still standing then these 3 guilds violated that--regardless of their reasoning.

The immediate solution is to say "If IB, TMO and Taken all agree to NOT kill OOAs unanimously then we will be back on track," at least until we get word from Sirken. This is our own option as of right now and it benefits everyone.

Can we agree to this small patch while we actively work to make things better in a permanent way?
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:37 AM
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Taken can't be in violation of an agreement that is not longer an agreement. If we know that other Guilds are going to kill the overseers and ruin it for everyone else for their own benefit, then we are not going to just sit and watch it happen.

I am personally not inclined to go back to how it was, because how it was didn't work. It will very well end up the same way. Spawn multiple overseers, couple guilds feel snubbed for one reason or another and retaliates by killing them.

Like I said, back to the drawing board.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:42 AM
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I am personally not inclined to go back to how it was, because how it was didn't work.

Like I said, back to the drawing board.
I agree and disagree. It did work better than FTEing clickfest. I'd like to try to keep the OOAs going for now while we campaign to get some results from Rogean/Sirken.
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