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[Pan]

Originally Posted by SeruScars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, assholes, you don't get to accuse other guilds of mass recruiting and growing into massive zergling forces and then be proud that you have 100 in vent.

BDA just doesn't boot old friends. Lotta them showed up for some fun. Kinda like that release when you have blueballs...

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you think it's cool to repress minorities, is what people are saying?

When they are, in fact, the oppressive elite, you betcha.

[SeruScars]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA just doesn't boot old friends. Lotta them showed up for some fun. Kinda like that release when you have blueballs...

P99 soon to be covered in BDA's blueball release.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the problem with your conception of varied stake. Legal realism as exemplified by maritime law is applied on the basis of access to water. Nobody could seriously argue that a landlocked country with no major maritime trade has as significant a stake in international maritime law as a country that is surrounded on all sides by water and has integral aspects of its economy wrapped up in maritime trade. Varied stake is a product of undeniable and largely inescapable geographic limitations.

This isn't a comparable situation. Whether or not a given guild has a significant stake in the end game is directly related to the rules that dictate the end game. Whether international maritime law settles on a set of regulations regarding piracy or not, South Sudan is not going to be terribly invested. But if variance is eliminated and rotations put into place, essentially every player on the server could be expected to have a stake in the raid scene. The rules, not the nature of the player, dictate the level of involvement for the vast majority of players. The level 5 alt-a-holic nostalgia fiend is the minority amongst the guilds being represented. Most players do reach raiding level and would participate, given the right set of rules.

It's taken me the better part of a day to figure out if I even had a rebuttal, much less a good one.

After mulling it over, I think you're right.

I'm looking at it too narrowly. For the record, I still think the concept is sound in theory that standing and situation have parts to play in determining stake, but you're right that the crucial difference here is that the geography, so to speak, is not immutable. The rules that define each individual's situation on P99 are capable of going anywhere which gives a much larger potential stake to almost every party. This makes a lot the "varied stake" far more marginal than how I presented it.

I painted myself into a corner by using the maritime analogy. In retrospect, I should have used a different analogy of international custom where each party's starting position was roughly the same and that standing depth of influence was defined by each party's affirmative actions. But, the point is largely irrelevant in light of your excellent rebuttal. Also, if I kept going it'd be too much of a one-man circle jerk even for myself (which says a lot given how much I love to talk without actually saying anything).

Point taken and well-received.

[radditsu]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TdeSh3vLvYI

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TdeSh3vLvYI

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[Castigate]

Originally Posted by SeruScars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, assholes, you don't get to accuse other guilds of mass recruiting and growing into massive zergling forces and then be proud that you have 100 in vent.

When have I ever accused anyone of that?
Who the fuck are you to speak for my personal stance on things?
Who the fuck are you exactly?
What guild do you represent to comment on this since you are apparently very invested in it?
Have you even read the argument I was talking about? Many of the top guilds claim 120+ "active members" I was merely providing a method of proof for that type of thing.

Hiding behind fresh forumquest names doesn't really put you in position to accuse anyone of anything IMO.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's taken me the better part of a day to figure out if I even had a rebuttal, much less a good one.

After mulling it over, I think you're right.

I'm looking at it too narrowly. For the record, I still think the concept is sound in theory that standing and situation have parts to play in determining stake, but you're right that the crucial difference here is that the geography, so to speak, is not immutable. The rules that define each individual's situation on P99 are capable of going anywhere which gives a much larger potential stake to almost every party. This makes a lot the "varied stake" far more marginal than how I presented it.

I painted myself into a corner by using the maritime analogy. In retrospect, I should have used a different analogy of international custom where each party's starting position was roughly the same and that standing depth of influence was defined by each party's affirmative actions. But, the point is largely irrelevant in light of your excellent rebuttal. Also, if I kept going it'd be too much of a one-man circle jerk even for myself (which says a lot given how much I love to talk without actually saying anything).

Point taken and well-received.

jesus with lawyers i got enough with my wife[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Servellious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Life is good yourself?

I'm good. P99 ver strange these days.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's taken me the better part of a day to figure out if I even had a rebuttal, much less a good one.

After mulling it over, I think you're right.

I'm looking at it too narrowly. For the record, I still think the concept is sound in theory that standing and situation have parts to play in determining stake, but you're right that the crucial difference here is that the geography, so to speak, is not immutable. The rules that define each individual's situation on P99 are capable of going anywhere which gives a much larger potential stake to almost every party. This makes a lot the "varied stake" far more marginal than how I presented it.

I painted myself into a corner by using the maritime analogy. In retrospect, I should have used a different analogy of international custom where each party's starting position was roughly the same and that standing depth of influence was defined by each party's affirmative actions. But, the point is largely irrelevant in light of your excellent rebuttal. Also, if I kept going it'd be too much of a one-man circle jerk even for myself (which says a lot given how much I love to talk without actually saying anything).

Point taken and well-received.

The fact that you're a) not TMO's guild leader and b) not in the process of leaving TMO to form your own guild really sucks for the rest of the server.

Would join The Xastenical Order in a heartbeat.