Lock Server Until an Agreement is Met

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's wrong with raiding in multiple guilds? Your helping each guild get the kills/loot with your extra effort. Some people are willing to put in significantly more time on p99, why shouldn't they expect higher returns?

Because that encourages small splinter guilds that will have just enough raid geared alts to get in on the rotations. If there are not that many people, then loot is likely to come your way after a few months of rotations. Repeat this process 50 times and the whole rotation idea bogs down in a hurry.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because that encourages small splinter guilds that will have just enough raid geared alts to get in on the rotations. If there are not that many people, then loot is likely to come your way after a few months of rotations. Repeat this process 50 times and the whole rotation idea bogs down in a hurry.

the system least damaged by guilds splintering is the points system.

Small guilds have a harder time logging people in at odd hours and it puts more stress on the trackers.

Again, I welcome the thought of guilds splintering and shedding their fat.

[MaksimMazor]

I need 2 more epics I dunno about yall

[fastboy21]

I support a /movelog of all raiding guilds to red until they are ready play nice with each other.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I support a /movelog of all raiding guilds to red until they are ready play nice with each other.

yessssssss would be interesting,,,,,,,[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DrKvothe]

No pound of flesh. But 90% dominance to 50-70% dominance that still includes all of VP is more than fair.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No pound of flesh. But 90% dominance to 50-70% dominance that still includes all of VP is more than fair.

The hardcores offered 10 uncontested days of raiding a month which included all targets. The 66/33 split was categorically rejected. I personally find that acceptable and fair to both parties.

Simply tack on a provision that any guild killing more than X targets in that 10 day time period is treated as a hardcore for Y days and you've got a self-policing and extremely simple policy that can take immediate effect.

It's a shame that deal was not made.

[Spacebar]

Reminds me of this:

For it is not difficult to see what must be the consequences when democracy embarks upon a course of planning. The goal of the planning will be described by some such vague term as "the general welfare." There will be no real agreement as to the ends to be attained, and the effect of the people's agreeing that there must be central planning, without agreeing on the ends, will be rather as if a group of people were to commit themselves to take a journey together without agreeing where they want to go: with the result that they may all have to make a journey which most of them do not want at all.

Democratic assemblies cannot function as planning agencies. They cannot produce agreement on everything — the whole direction of the resources of the nation-for the number of possible courses of action will be legion. Even if a congress could, by proceeding step by step and compromising at each point, agree on some scheme, it would certainly in the end satisfy nobody.

[Tyym]

Troubled Posted

BDA alone possibly larger than FE, IB, & TMO put together. Haven't seen the latest server stats.

You know what, I believe you. Then why the hell are you guys whining so much. Put a little effort into the game and knock TMO and us out of the top spot. OH WAIT... You guys might have to put effort into the game. Reducing our ability to hit targets to only 14 days a month so you can clean up uncontested with your mass of underachieving players is a pretty weak offer if you ask me.

You guys need to wake up and look what you are asking. What we are offering is more than acceptable. We have been blamed for server discontent, Obamacare and everything else. The simple solution is to take the offer or it seems we will all suffer the consequences, not just the CAT A guilds.

Morphius
60 Neckbeard of Forceful Entry and insufferable twat

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what, I believe you. Then why the hell are you guys whining so much. Put a little effort into the game and knock TMO and us out of the top spot. OH WAIT... You guys might have to put effort into the game. Reducing our ability to hit targets to only 14 days a month so you can clean up uncontested with your mass of underachieving players is a pretty weak offer if you ask me.

sounds like you havnt even read the counter-proposal that was put on the table by the other guilds....

they were not asking for 14 days of uncontested spawns wtf you still get plenty of targets the first half of the month......yes you dont get 100% of the mobs for half of the month....