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Old 12-31-2013, 04:11 PM
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Super simple to enforce. That's the best part about it.
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:28 PM
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how does the point system change the atmosphere of the raid scene any?

to me still looks like when 3-5 guilds wanna spend their points on the same target there will be problems and we are back using the toxic behaviors that Rogean and Co specifically said they want to see gone.

something like this would have been great to use before 1 guild monopolized the content for 2 years...
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:35 PM
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No raid system ever is going to fix toxic behavior on the server as far as things like petitionquest goes. That's something the guilds will have to do on their own, lest Sirken's banhammer comes down.

This proposal spreads mobs around to the point that there won't be a one or two guild monopoly, which is the main issue Rogean is after. Guilds will still have to play nice on their own.
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:37 PM
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nothing gets spread out when the same guilds spend their points the same way each time

leaving the dracos, maestros, gore, tal up for the casual scum lol
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:41 PM
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nothing gets spread out when the same guilds spend their points the same way each time

leaving the dracos, maestros, gore, tal up for the casual scum lol
Top end guilds love bcgs. They will use points on draco.

Warriors need epics. Maestros will be bought. Tal has great red dragon haste. Good for building forces. Gore is a challenge. Raiders like challenge. Points wouldn't be spent the same. I should be promoting my own stuff!
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:38 PM
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They are not buying on the front end. They have a chance to lose the race and then use points elsewhere.
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:43 PM
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Those mobs are expensive enough in my system that no two guilds can take them all.

If each guild gets 5 points a week to spend, and Trak, PD, and Nodrop epic mobs are all two points each, no guild can kill more than two a week. Loot mobs, VP dragons are one point.

With this system, a guild can farm two Key/Epic mobs and a loot mob, a single epic/key mob and three loot mobs, or 5 loot mobs per week.

Lets say that guild A kills PD(2), Trak (2), and Hoshkar(1). Guild B kills everything else in VP (4 points) and farms Naggy for alts (1). This leaves CT, Inny, Maestro, Fay, Gore, Sev, Talendor, And everything else up I am forgetting for the rest of the server to kill, because guild A and B already spent their points that week.
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:53 PM
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Those mobs are expensive enough in my system that no two guilds can take them all.

If each guild gets 5 points a week to spend, and Trak, PD, and Nodrop epic mobs are all two points each, no guild can kill more than two a week. Loot mobs, VP dragons are one point.

With this system, a guild can farm two Key/Epic mobs and a loot mob, a single epic/key mob and three loot mobs, or 5 loot mobs per week.

Lets say that guild A kills PD(2), Trak (2), and Hoshkar(1). Guild B kills everything else in VP (4 points) and farms Naggy for alts (1). This leaves CT, Inny, Maestro, Fay, Gore, Sev, Talendor, And everything else up I am forgetting for the rest of the server to kill, because guild A and B already spent their points that week.
so when the only guilds that can kill the VP dragons DONT kill em and leave em up, while spending their points on the rest of the content

they can then claim that the VP dragons are FFA and cost no points bc they were left up for X period of time

or was this explained somewhere in the OP ( if it was i apologize just trying to further understand)
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:55 PM
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so when the only guilds that can kill the VP dragons DONT kill em and leave em up, while spending their points on the rest of the content

they can then claim that the VP dragons are FFA and cost no points bc they were left up for X period of time

or was this explained somewhere in the OP ( if it was i apologize just trying to further understand)
You really think TMO, FE, IB and BDA(?) would come to that kind of arrangement?
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:58 PM
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