Dear Atheist,

[r00t]

If they were a lazy grad student copy pasting from stackoverflow they would not be our true creator but merely a demigod.

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Computer science researchers run programs all the time where they are pretty ignorant as to the details of what is going on inside. This is not because they are stupid, but because the complexity they create is beyond their ability to digest it easily. Nor would it be worthwhile to bother understanding every minor detail. How do you know we aren't just a program being run by some grad student who doesn't really know much beyond the large scale structure of the universe? Maybe the only visualization they see is the spiderweb of galaxy clusters and filaments.

This is why Feinman was reduced to drawing pictures to "explain" what he thought was going on in quantum mechanics, the math is simply too difficult.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they were a lazy grad student copy pasting from stackoverflow they would not be our true creator but merely a demigod.

Ah, it's good to see that you continue to maintain such a rigorous and exacting scientific approach to understanding the universe. Root has decreed it to be and so thus it is.

[r00t]

My approach to science is the correct way because I question everything and don't accept a fossil record with like 4 fossils of monkeys saying I am a monkey

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This brings me to my point. Having taken Med School level Anatomy and the health care nursing Physiology, I have come to a conclusion that nothing in the design of the human body is by chance or mistake. It is a perfect computer/machine, with built in fail-safes, etc. I can never believe that over time we "evolved" from anything.

Please concisely explain the function of the appendix, and if you can manage that problem number two will be explaining consciousness and how that fits into a human being - since human bodies are perfect machines and all. Some people see Jesus in their soap scum, I just see a mess.

[kylok]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My approach to science is the correct way because I question everything and don't accept a fossil record with like 4 fossils of monkeys saying I am a monkey

This is a great example of how people are not created equal, and should not have equal rights. You can choose to reject good science if you want to, but you're just putting your head in the sand. If fundamentalist christians had their way we'd still be in the dark ages, notice how when science went out to lunch we recall that period of history as the dark ages....

[r00t]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a great example of how people are not created equal, and should not have equal rights. You can choose to reject good science if you want to, but you're just putting your head in the sand. If fundamentalist christians had their way we'd still be in the dark ages, notice how when science went out to lunch we recall that period of history as the dark ages....

You talk as a tyrant because atheism has no morals

[DrKvothe]

Additionally, we've identified the molecular solutions that microorganisms have developed to protect themselves against antibiotics. In some cases, general xenobiotic enzymes are mutated to accept these new molecules as substrates, allowing them to catalyze chemical reactions which inactivate the antibiotics by changing their molecular structures and interrupting their function as potent protein inhibitors. In other cases general efflux pumpes are mutated to remove the antibiotic from the cell, keeping it below the working concentration. In other cases, the protein targets of the antibiotics have mutated, and the antibiotic no longer properly inhibits them. In other cases, horizontal gene transfer appears to be the culprit. The vast majority of antibiotics are natural compounds or semi synthetic derivatives of natural compounds. The biosynthetic machinery of these compounds evolved as weapons factories in a molecular arms race between microbes competing for nutrients. The microbial host that produces the antibiotic has to have its own resistance mechanism, and the theft of the genetic code for this resistance (horizontal gene transfer) allows a previously susceptible organism to gain resistance.

All of these mechanisms are genetically encoded, and their appearance represents a chance in the genetic code which is subsequently heritable. That's fucking evolution.

[August]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please concisely explain the function of the appendix, and if you can manage that problem number two will be explaining consciousness and how that fits into a human being - since human bodies are perfect machines and all. Some people see Jesus in their soap scum, I just see a mess.

I thought I recently read something suggesting that the appendix is kind of like a 'seed bank' for all the bacteria that live in your gut to aid in digestion - if your intestinal track got wiped out of all the 'probiotics' the appendix is there to save the day.

Also arguing over religion is probably one of the biggest wastes of time that I can imagine. It's utterly pointless to argue with people who only accept one world view as correct. Your insistence that there are other ways to look at life is an abrupt decay to their entire framework of existence - something so scary that they can only refute your points and cling to their fundamentalist views that insist upon the re-telling of thousands of years worth of stories conjured by earlier civilization to explain natural phenomena.

I'm perfectly fine with saying 'i don't know - maybe you're right'.

[kylok]

Science hardly explains everything, but at least what it does explain is more or less indisputable (not talking about advanced physics, more like Newtonian).