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Old 04-16-2011, 04:17 AM
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if all you want to do is raid the gods then why not have a way to do a quest to fight the god? the devs could implement a way for a quest to get your raid ported up to the plane? or in my opinion better have the devs bring the raid to the regular world? maybe even implement a way for two dieties to fight eachother with their armys like the frost giants vs the dwarves in the great divide? there would be different stuff dropped for different winners?
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:02 PM
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I significant note here: enabling ANY of the PoP zones AUTOMATICALLY enables Luclin Models [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:32 PM
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The only Luclin model I liked was Iksar and male Gnomes >.>
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:59 PM
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I going to make a personal list of Luclin Cons and Pros:

Pros:

-Significant upgrade to environment graphics - new amazing design zones like Ssra, TV, Seru, Kata, Deep
-New player models! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ok not all of them as great as they could be, but mostly better and more realistic that they were before. Exceptions probably the shorties - they never were very different to begin with, but now they totally indistinguishable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
-Most of the new npc models are very cool - Gorgons, Shissar, fungoid fiends
-Vah Shir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Ok given that players (myself included) were asking for Kerrans to be made playable, but oh well [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
-Beastlords - just awesome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
-Horses!
-new weapon models

Cons:

-Nexus and Hubs (factionless Shadow Heaven) - could have been done better rather than all out access (thought PoK was way worse)
-Some silly looking mobs: netherian 'aliens', rockhoppers (cartoony looking dinos)
-unequal zone range progression - many redundant areas
-despite massive new high def textures, still poor outdoor zone design - barely any landmark features (just like the old world)
-pain in the arse Seru/VT key progression, which requires ton of individual farming which is totally pointless time-sink (same goes for bane weapon quest which has to be for just a single mob in netire expansion)

Uncertainty:
-AAs - interesting concept in theory but poor implementation in a form of endless grinding. I would design this better

overall i would give Luclin 8/10 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:31 PM
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-Beastlords - just awesome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
-Iksar Beastlords - Even more awesome
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:41 AM
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My own list of Luclin pros and cons.

Pros:
  • Tradeskills - Misty Thicket Picnic , Earring of the Solstice, and more
  • Focus Effects - not all items get focus effects retroactively
  • Burrower event
  • Ring of Fire
  • Fungus Grove caller events
  • oodles of mini-raid targets - Rumblecrush, Zelnithak, etc
  • custom UIs - Moot point considering the Titanium client, but still a postitive
  • Bazaar - So much stuff is less valuable than the time lost trying to sell said stuff. The Bazaar gives value to those items, the sellers wanting to sell the items and the buyers looking to buy the items.

Cons:
  • The best parts of Luclin weren't designed for the NToV crowd.
  • The pinnacle of Luclin was a massive letdown compared to the mobs/events/raids/design leading up to the pinnacle. The climb was better than the view from the top. For a lot of players, the climb happened in Velious, not Luclin.
  • Bazaar had the bass ackwards design of staying logged into the game but unable to play your character.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:12 AM
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My own list of Luclin pros and cons.
I would add:

Con: Paludal Caverns' huge +exp modifier trivialised all other leveling content from L4 to ~L23 (Or you can call it a pro if you are into powerleveling)

Pro: squishing Grimlings never got old for me
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:02 AM
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Keep those ideas coming!
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:21 AM
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I strongly dislike increasing the level cap to 65. If this was done it needs to be done in a way that keeps the old dungeons relevant and not trivialized like they will be at level 65. I would suggest rebalancing the PoP encounters to level 60. Every time people leveled up in EQ1, old dungeons got left behind. Every time they didn't increase levels for a new expansion, the old dungeons were kept in use as a gearing tool for the new ones, which is a good thing. The additional AAs and gear will bring with it plenty of new power to the players as it is.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:48 AM
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I strongly dislike increasing the level cap to 65. If this was done it needs to be done in a way that keeps the old dungeons relevant and not trivialized like they will be at level 65. I would suggest rebalancing the PoP encounters to level 60. Every time people leveled up in EQ1, old dungeons got left behind. Every time they didn't increase levels for a new expansion, the old dungeons were kept in use as a gearing tool for the new ones, which is a good thing. The additional AAs and gear will bring with it plenty of new power to the players as it is.
This is important to me as well! It's sad when games are not scaled correctly and older content has absolutely no meaning anymore.

Look what happened to WoW after the Burning Crusade expansion. MC, BWL, Ony, AQ, NAXX, all of those dungeons could very well have been deleted from the game, and no one would have noticed because no one was ever going to go into them ever again!

Game scaling is important, and in my opinion, one of the reasons why games go sour after a couple expansions. There is a way to do this, it just has to be done right!
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