Sat in a philosophy class today.

[Alawen]

I'm reading the Glymour paper now, just out of curiosity. Herrnstein and Murray really get hammered from every possible direction.

[Splorf22]

This is not what I am saying at all.

I googled "example IQ test questions" and got the following: http://www.stevezervos.com/iq-test.htm

So I go to the first question: Which letter does not belong in this series? H D R Y L

I have seen similar questions before, so I start running through my list of possibilities: Is it a mixture of letters and vowels? no. Are the letters almost in order? no. What do the letters look like in standard book code? 8 4 18 25 12. Now I start running through my list of number sequence possiblities. Are the numbers in order? no. Are they primes? no. Are they a mix of odd and even? Yes. So my answer is Y is the odd one out. Is this right? I have no idea.

I go to the second question: Which alpha-numeric is the odd one out? 9D 8F 3E 6C

I again begin to enumerate. The obvious answer is that 3E contains 3, an odd number. The second possibility is that these numbers are in hex. In that case both 8F = 143 and 9D = 157 are odd, while 3E = 62 and 6C = 108 are even, so that's out. Another possibility is that the numbers are in hex and one is prime. In this case 62 (31x2), 108 (9x12), and 143 (11x13, I checked a list of prime numbers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) are not prime (11 x 13, I googled) but 157 is. Both solutions match so I select the hexadecimal one a-priori because prime numbers are cool.

The point I am trying to make is that my thought process here is entirely specific to IQ tests. I know several ways of looking at sequences of numbers for patterns. I apply them. If the test uses one of the ones I know, I get the problem right. If it doesn't, I don't. So I check the answers: (1) Y does not belong.. Every other letter is the third letter following a vowel. (2) 8f. The word for the number 9 contains 4 letters (nine) so the fourth letter of the alphabet (D) is paired with it. This rule applies to the other pairs as well, except 8F.

I have not seen either of those types of patterns before, so I never considered them. I definitely prefer my first solution to his as it is far simpler. I also prefer my second solution as "hexidecimal primes" is simpler than "pairing the book code of a number's english length with the number".

The point I am trying to make by this is that there is nothing GENERAL or FACTORED to what I am doing. It is 100% specific to IQ tests. I don't believe in Spearman's 1 factor or Gardner's 10 factors or whatever.

[Cecily]

So the big take away from this is that IQ tests are just a front to find out who can save American by breaking Nazi codes.

[Alawen]

Shalizi, by the way, is a really fucking horrible writer who intentional obfuscates a pretty simple idea in an apparent attempt to impress people like you.

[Alawen]

Shalizi is basically backing up Glymour responding to Herrnstein and Murray.

Debunking the century-old incarnation of Spearman's theory of generalized intelligence is a straw man. You don't appear to understand the context of Shalizi's paper, you missed important details that make it irrelevant to anything I've been talking about, and you seem to have willful ignorance of contemporary intelligence theories. You apparently dismiss all social sciences as pointless, so why are we even discussing this?

I mentioned at the beginning of this discussion of IQ that I think there is a disconnect between IQ and intelligence; I am not a strong proponent of IQ as a measure of anything. I just think psychometrics are interesting and I know a few things about them. Neuroscience will probably answer many of these questions in the next few decades. I'm going to bed.

[Hasbinbad]

Alawen what happens if you eat a big meal of fish 12 hours before you take an IQ test?

[Hailto]

I would like to take you out for a nice fish dinner HBB.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to take you out for a nice fish dinner HBB.

Word, let's go.

I'm always down for a free meal from a fan.

[Barkingturtle]

I was getting caught up on the last pages of threads and I came upon this:

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I go to the first question: Which letter does not belong in this series? H D R Y L

I have seen similar questions before, so I start running through my list of possibilities: Is it a mixture of letters and vowels? no. Are the letters almost in order? no. What do the letters look like in standard book code? 8 4 18 25 12. Now I start running through my list of number sequence possiblities. Are the numbers in order? no. Are they primes? no. Are they a mix of odd and even? Yes. So my answer is Y is the odd one out. Is this right? I have no idea.

I go to the second question: Which alpha-numeric is the odd one out? 9D 8F 3E 6C

I again begin to enumerate. The obvious answer is that 3E contains 3, an odd number. The second possibility is that these numbers are in hex. In that case both 8F = 143 and 9D = 157 are odd, while 3E = 62 and 6C = 108 are even, so that's out. Another possibility is that the numbers are in hex and one is prime. In this case 62 (31x2), 108 (9x12), and 143 (11x13, I checked a list of prime numbers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) are not prime (11 x 13, I googled) but 157 is. Both solutions match so I select the hexadecimal one a-priori because prime numbers are cool.

Hehehe. Must be weird being a normie. Honestly, that whole exercise exhausted me and I all I did was read your desperate mental groping. I look at those questions and I just know the answers. I don't even have to consciously think--patterns are that apparent. I've only taken a few IQ tests because frankly I don't need a number--it was affirmation enough growing up in the 99% percentile on standardized tests--it has always been enough just knowing I have an advantage over people like you. By which I mean dumb people, of course.

This excerpt in particular was very interesting and illuminating in my quest to better understand the primitive thought processes of the American Neckbeard:

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I go to the second question: Which alpha-numeric is the odd one out? 9D 8F 3E 6C

I again begin to enumerate. The obvious answer is that 3E contains 3, an odd number,

The first number you read was nine. It is also an odd number. Your very first enumeration--the initial impression by which you format the whole exercise--is flawed and in a way which suggests you are major dumb. I cannot imagine how terrifying it must be to be capable of such loose thinking. The fortunate thing is I've heard there's some blissful agent associated with being dumb as shit and so you'll never mind.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first number you read was nine. It is also an odd number.

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