Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Woahnelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 week every 3 months is begging for scraps. if enough people are fully intolerant to the current situation, change will come.

Example: I don't like TMO or FE's tactics and mob hoggery

Solution: nobody does any business with any player in those guilds.

After a little time maybe they would be willing to actually bring something constructive to the round table.

but then i'll never get a Cobalt BP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Funkutron5000]

I see it more like a black friday deal with one item on the shelf. Two people have been waiting in line to dash to pick up the item while a bunch of other people show up at some point and want those two to stop running so every can discuss whose chance it is to grab it.

Stupid analogies aside, I'm not against a rotation at all, by the way, but a lot of tedious and terrible tracking work goes into getting those mobs, and a lot of us (at least in FE) still need a lot of those loots to upgrade. Plus, killing dragons is fun! I look forward to seeing something worked out so everyone can get a chance to do it.

TL; DR: We still want/ need loot, but at least this paladin would like everyone that wants a shot to kill some dragons to be able to kill some dragons.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see it more like a black friday deal with one item on the shelf. Two people have been waiting in line to dash to pick up the item while a bunch of other people show up at some point and want those two to stop running so every can discuss whose chance it is to grab it.

Stupid analogies aside, I'm not against a rotation at all, by the way, but a lot of tedious and terrible tracking work goes into getting those mobs, and a lot of us (at least in FE) still need a lot of those loots to upgrade. Plus, killing dragons is fun! I look forward to seeing something worked out so everyone can get a chance to do it.

TL; DR: We still want/ need loot, but at least this paladin would like everyone that wants a shot to kill some dragons to be able to kill some dragons.

+1

This exactly, Nothing is stopping other guilds from joining up to go get a mob. I have yet to really hear a way this could work, sounds like a pipe dream. No GM intervention will mean betrayl in the end imo=-/

Guys if you really want a mob, focus on one, track it, camp out there and pull fast. Only way to get it at this current time. I'm sure velious will clear up alot of stuff allowing guilds/small groups of friends to kill some rare raid merbs. Thats what I'd want the dev/GM team to be focusing on anyways. WTB velious=-)

[Tierael]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1

This exactly, Nothing is stopping other guilds from joining up to go get a mob. I have yet to really hear a way this could work, sounds like a pipe dream. No GM intervention will mean betrayl in the end imo=-/

Guys if you really want a mob, focus on one, track it, camp out there and pull fast. Only way to get it at this current time. I'm sure velious will clear up alot of stuff allowing guilds/small groups of friends to kill some rare raid merbs. Thats what I'd want the dev/GM team to be focusing on anyways. WTB velious=-)

You do know that even with BDA or FV or FC or Divinity hanging out with a full force clearing Hate/Fear, and Maestro/Draco pops, you guys still mobilize and pull faster than those guilds can finish their current pulls, right?

Telling these guilds to track, camp, and mobilize to compete, when they literally do all 3 of those and still lose by a mile, does no good.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Tierael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do know that even with BDA or FV or FC or Divinity hanging out with a full force clearing Hate/Fear, and Maestro/Draco pops, you guys still mobilize and pull faster than those guilds can finish their current pulls, right?

if that's the case do you really deserve the mob? I can't think of any draco/maestro pops i've gone to since being in FE where this was even the case.

[Tierael]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if that's the case do you really deserve the mob? I can't think of any draco/maestro pops i've gone to since being in FE where this was even the case.

I know for a fact the last time I personally was in Fear, we were clearing, and Draco popped. You guys moved so fast we just decided to get out of the way, else we die in the madness.

I know for a fact the FIRST time I went to hate (a month ago), Divinity was doing the same thing, and TMO/FE/BDA mobilized for Maestro faster than Div finished their pull. They were not so lucky to get out, and ended up having their fun Hate clear wiped out.

[OMGWTF420]

asking the "top" guild for anything besides a train, some fraps, and a petition is an exercise in futility. you arent the first person to ask for a rotation and im sure you wont be the last, lets review!

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...light=rotation

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...light=rotation

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...light=rotation

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...light=rotation

these are just a few threads dealing with the topic of rotation that i just picked at random from a simple search... i did however find one thread about rotations that actually worked. surprisingly it was when TMO was on suspension

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...light=rotation

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by OMGWTF420 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lets review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0

[AenarieFenninRo]

Originally Posted by OMGWTF420 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

asking the "top" guild for anything besides a train, some fraps, and a petition is an exercise in futility. you arent the first person to ask for a rotation and im sure you wont be the last, lets review!

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these are just a few threads dealing with the topic of rotation that i just picked at random from a simple search

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I do not think a well reasoned conversation about how to change things is an exercise in futility, nor does TMO... or FE (trying to be inclusive here guys, sorry if I am assuming too much [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

All of these references you have made were based on searching for the word rotation. This thread has been stated MANY times as NOT about rotations as we all (even the OP) seem to agree that this isn't the way to go.

It may be that in the end, some hybrid-bastardized rotation method is selected as the way to proceed, but until we have a solution, that has yet to be determined... for now we're leaving that ugly word out of it though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[OMGWTF420]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do not think a well reasoned conversation about how to change things is an exercise in futility, nor does TMO... or FE (trying to be inclusive here guys, sorry if I am assuming too much [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

All of these references you have made were based on searching for the word rotation. This thread has been stated MANY times as NOT about rotations as we all (even the OP) seem to agree that this isn't the way to go.

It may be that in the end, some hybrid-bastardized rotation method is selected as the way to proceed, but until we have a solution, that has yet to be determined... for now we're leaving that ugly word out of it though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my skepticism is based purely off past experience's/conversations. ive started these threads in the past as well, and many good ideas will get passed around them, but ultimately they always lead to

"people just want welfare mobs, if you want that shit get out there and take it"

or something