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[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id say there is about a 80% to 90% chance we will get to go to war with them before 2020 and them making trump look like a fool is going to be the main reason.

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[DinoTriz]

North Korea is tricky.

Our country can't stomach war. Our military can. Our country can't though. We're too sheltered and weak. We haven't really experienced total war since World War 2.

The type of campaign needed to crush North Korea cleanly would be bloody and ruthless.

We wouldn't be able to pussy foot around and show the world we're "Peace keepers".

Also, China gets massively paranoid when our armies march around their border.

For those reasons, I think all out war isn't an option.

We need more intel and diplomacy.

We need to find out what really is going on there and who supports us more. Kim Jong Un or the rest of the government?

Then we need to play that side. A coup would probably be too messy. Maybe broker some sort of bipartisan reunification deal between SK and NK. Blame the camps on some dead general and sweep history under the rug.

Then stop subsidizing defense on the peninsula and bring our military home.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need to find out what really is going on there and who supports us more. Kim Jong Un or the rest of the government?

Then we need to play that side. A coup would probably be too messy. Maybe broker some sort of bipartisan reunification deal between SK and NK. Blame the camps on some dead general and sweep history under the rug.

I think this is the reality of what is going to happen. Sadly.

But it is why trump does deserve the Nobel Peace prize.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't either. Our nukes vs japan was an attempt to stave off total war.

That should be telling.

This is inaccurate. Most of our WW2 generals advised against using nukes because Japan was about to surrender. General Leahy had already overseen what he called a "terror bombing" campaign which had killed an estimated half a million Japanese civilians before the nukes were dropped.

We dropped the nukes because we wanted to see what they would do in a real military situation.

[Nibblewitz]

We are also hypocrites to be wagging our finger at war crimes.

[DinoTriz]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

General Leahy

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[Irulan]

@Dinotriz, yeah.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are also hypocrites to be wagging our finger at war crimes.

This is such a stupid thing to say.

Seriously.

Its such a stupid, cherivera shirt wearing weed smoking stupid post modern lack of actual education thing to say.

The ability that the left has to say that america is as bad as ANY other ruthless dictatorship is classic communist proppaganda.

The idea that you think that 3rd world countries run by a dictator would be better off being brutally murdered by that dictator, than it is by american involvemnet in any way shape or form is classic fake news that you were raised on and is why you and your entire political half of the country cant figure out how to A run a country or B do ANY of the things your politicians promise you they'll do.

[DinoTriz]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are also hypocrites to be wagging our finger at war crimes.

Do you say the same thing when speaking about Nazi Germany's concentration camps?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are also hypocrites to be wagging our finger at war crimes.

hypocrisy is a childs argument