the GAINS thread

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worked out in these today. Got jealous stares.

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Wow, that zipper scares me man... Yolo.

[Schaduwridder]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by Schaduwridder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

I'm all for your advice my little tomato head. But man your expectations of health are seriously high.. I have to now grow my own spinach and veggies cause otherwise they have 0 nutritional value? That's pretty harsh.. And I eat my weight in protein, maybe a little less, so you're saying i should chop my protein consumption down to 60g of protein a day? As a 33 year old adult who works a physical job and hits the gym 6 days a week for an hour, i can't properly accept your advice.. Not without proof that what you're doing or suggesting works or pays off.. I accept meads and skarlorns advice, because they have provided evidence...

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for your advice my little tomato head. But man your expectations of health are seriously high.. I have to now grow my own spinach and veggies cause otherwise they have 0 nutritional value? That's pretty harsh.. And I eat my weight in protein, maybe a little less, so you're saying i should chop my protein consumption down to 60g of protein a day? As a 33 year old adult who works a physical job and hits the gym 6 days a week for an hour, i can't properly accept your advice.. Not without proof that what you're doing or suggesting works or pays off.. I accept meads and skarlorns advice, because they have provided evidence...

“I have to grown my own spinach now?”

I lol’ed

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“I have to grown my own spinach now?”

I lol’ed

Men don't grow their own spinach. The take it from disadvantaged groups. That's how dad did it. That's how America does it.

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by Schaduwridder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

Not only that but i take a fair share of daily vitamins and supplements. Aka i supplement what i can't get from eating.. That's what supplements are for. I can't raise my own proteins, and harvest my own fruits/veggies in a 2 bedroom apartment. I think you need to be a bit more realistic man.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Schaduwridder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

You can tell the difference between the Morroccan and Spanish tomatoes sold here. They are sold same price and packaging by ASDA but with only a small difference on the packaging; in the country of origin field. The Spanish ones are just like orbs of water; as if they've been forced to swell quickly without the chance to absorb/develop anything of nutritional value. The Morroccan ones are a little better.

Having grown up with this situation, that is just how I thought tomatoes were; watery and without flavour.

When I moved to Greece the street markets were the most affordable source of veg. The fruit there was grown traditionally; in an irrigated sunny field on the vine until ripe. Direct from farmer to consumer.

These tomatoes were bursting with incredible flavour, and it opened my eyes to the fact corporate mega farms have pulled the wool over consumers eyes, having discovered how to grow 'tomato' quickly and cheaply, but with absolutely zero nutritional or culinary value.

The worst part is the awful tomatoes in the UK aren't even that cheap.

[Cecily]

I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about. It’s not all garbage, just not much understanding behind it. Complex carbohydrates are a good idea, for sure. Growth hormone part sounds like Alex Jones... Double carb / protein you need is a dumb statement without knowing exactly what your macros are. Need is a strong word anyways. Btw what are your macros? 480 cal protein so far.

[bigjeff100]

Thanks Cecily, btw good morning to you! Macro calculations to gain a healthy amount of weight per month is set for the following.

Carb-323
Protein-215
Fat- 80

[Cecily]

Good morning! I’m slacking hard on my studying today.

Carbs = 1292 45%
Protein = 860 30%
Fat = 720 25%

Total = 2872

I don’t have much input on this but I like seeing what macros people do and how it works out for them. Your protein intake -is- high, it’s well above 2.2g/kg for muscle building, definitely not double, but since you’re very active and need extra calories protein seems like a good source. More green leafys like hilter suggested wouldn’t hurt, but they severely lack calories. Anyways, I want to get back into nutrition, so ty for the numbers to play around with!

This may or may not be helpful. The estimated calorie requirements seem awfully high.
fnic.nal.usda.gov/fnic/dri-calculator/

Have a great day, Jeff!