If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[feriokun]

Originally Posted by Akame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believing in God, and believing in a 6000 year old earth is like saying if you believe in God you MUST believe in one specific type of theology, it's one seriously cheap ass complaint against Christianity that idiots like to use to try and trip up believers with a kindergarten Sunday school knowledge of the Bible.

If you did any study on this topic at ALL before you posted your ignorant statement you would know that the original Hebrew and Greek word used for the term DAY as in "and on the sixth Day God created...." Has two different uses, one for a 24 hour period of time and one for an indefinite period of time.

There is a very large community of believers that believe in the indirect translation, and it is usually considered either belief in Old Earth or New Earth, and neither belief contradicts the Bible or Christian faith.

Quoted for truth. Many people that are Christian think this is the case. Myself included.

[feriokun]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is awful. If people want to believe in magic even though there is no compelling reason, let them.

/win

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[feriokun]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do know that the 'church' doesn't really function the way the Bible outlines it right? You can't blame Jesus, for what men have done. We have free will, we make our own choices and decisions. Church leaders, Pastors, Deacons, Bishops are all men, and thus corruptible based on the fact that we are all men/women that were born into a world of sin and corruption and while we take on the image of God, we are not in and of ourselves divine beings. So, just because the church in large part is corrupt (and I agree with you here) doesn't mean that Christ is corrupt.

People's misconception of "Christians" isn't really based on "Christians" It's those people who claim to be Christians because they go to church on Sunday, and Wednesday, but choose not to live a Christian life, but go because it makes them feel good. Those aren't Christians, those are impostors.


I know there are many times when I'm not the best ambassador for Christ, and I know especially in regards to the guy who created this thread I've not been, but that's not because God loves Him any less, I just have a hard time dealing with people like him, those who believe they know everything, and have all the answers, even when they're as wrong as his statement about bards not being able to CC so it didn't matter if he was using an AoE sword. But in the end, none of this really matters.

I'm flawed, and I have plenty of my own struggles, so I'm not here trying to point out everything wrong with anyone else, that's for sure, I have my own short comings to work on. But seriously, it's laughable to think that someone who "doesn't care" cares enough to fight this vehemently against something that "doesn't exist"

I guess in the end, this thread isn't going to decide anything, just going to further fragment people, and push people further away from what the true message of the Bible is.

The overly simplified version is this:

Jesus loves you, and God has a plan for your life.

I hope that everyone can someday have the assurance that I do, and can know God how I know God. It's not because of a fact I found somewhere, it's not because Mommy and Daddy told me, it's because I know that God has impacted my life. So you can argue he doesn't exist, and I can know in my heart differently, but I'm not going to help you by words, or trying to convince you, I can just hope.

In the end, if I'm wrong, I haven't really missed out on anything in life, but in the end, if you're wrong, you'll be missing out on everything, and for that, I'm truly sad for you.

QFT spree!

C-C-c-ombo!

[Hitchens]

If you believe in god, I simply disagree with you and I have no interest in changing your mind.

Seems reasonable.

[feriokun]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you believe in god, I simply disagree with you and I have no interest in changing your mind.

Seems reasonable.

Well put good sir.

[Black Jesus]

You can't claim there is no God unless you are omniscient which ironically and paradoxically would then make you a god.

Atheists belong in an asylum because they have severe cases of nihilism, narcissism, and assburgers. Their (lack of) moral grounding is a menace to society and civilization.

[Faywind]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't claim there is no God unless you are omniscient which ironically and paradoxically would then make you a god.

Atheists belong in an asylum because they have severe cases of nihilism, narcissism, and assburgers. Their (lack of) moral grounding is a menace to society and civilization.

Spoken like a true loser....

[Ames_]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't claim there is no God unless you are omniscient which ironically and paradoxically would then make you a god.

Atheists belong in an asylum because they have severe cases of nihilism, narcissism, and assburgers. Their (lack of) moral grounding is a menace to society and civilization.

If there was a god I'm sure he would of not made someone as retarded as yourself.

[Quiksilver]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't claim there is no God unless you are omniscient which ironically and paradoxically would then make you a god.

Atheists belong in an asylum because they have severe cases of nihilism, narcissism, and assburgers. Their (lack of) moral grounding is a menace to society and civilization.

WIN

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[Quiksilver]

IMHO we live in pretty interesting times. By that I mean we're capable of actually looking into space and seeing how small and insignificant we are in comparison to the entire universe (or to some, the entire "multi-verse"). I think the answer to the question if God(s) does or does not exists is becoming more and more complex. Sure the science behind evolution has become mostly accepted in the general public. But, going further back into the evolutionary chain begs the question,"But where did that come from?" Which can apply to virtually everything. But the further and further we investigate, scientifically, the chain leads back to the cosmos.

So I don't think it's a matter of science vs. faith. It's my opinion that those two can remain separate. One can easily accept the science and a belief system which allows God to have created the earth in a universe already set in motion. Even the origins of scripture can come into question simply by asking, if God is the "supreme being" then His message could have easily have been misinterpreted by the creationist's own logic. That we cannot understand a being that omnipotent and powerful. So what makes us think that His word is accurate when it was given to us humans with limited knowledge and understanding about how all this fucking works?

The end.