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My prediction for GoT TV show, based on Baelor (S01e09) and Blackwater (S02e09) :

Red Wedding takes up half of Episode 9 in S03. Then Ep10 sets up where Arya/hound buddy flick goes, a bit of Jaime/Brienne, and basically the same way Ep10 was in S02.

Very pissed the TV series butchered events in Harrenhall up to this point. They could've handled it much better. They can still salvage it somewhat in S03 I hope.
i 100% agree with you on how Season 3 will end.

Harrenhall can be... well.. the meat and potatoes can still be saved from that story. they absolutely annihilated Dany's story since season 2 started.

and Bran was supposed to meet Mira and Jojen before they fled winterfell, so idk
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My prediction for GoT TV show, based on Baelor (S01e09) and Blackwater (S02e09) :

Red Wedding takes up half of Episode 9 in S03. Then Ep10 sets up where Arya/hound buddy flick goes, a bit of Jaime/Brienne, and basically the same way Ep10 was in S02.
Looks like I was right:

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/72790175.html
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nice find! and good call!

i thought they would end with the red wedding. but it appears u are correct, the RW will be episode 9. which as u say, means episode 10 will be the tale of BFFs Sandor and Arya. (unless they deviate from the plan)
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I'm rewatching the show now, and Season 2 already has deviations I don't like and only two episodes in. I still enjoy it, I just really hope they don't deviate too much from SoS material, I love that book so much.
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maybe im wrong.

but didnt they fuck up most of the Dany story in season 2? for ex: THEY KILL HER FUCKING HORSE AND 1 BLOODRIDER. both of which she still has in book 5.

not to mention i feel she skipped some cities, and i do not believe Danys dragons were ever stolen

AND they cut the vision Dany has of Rhaegar while in the house of the undying

hmpf
All of this is true, most egregious was the House of Undying being cut to just Drago and throne. No RW reference. Silver dead, Rakharro dead, Xaro killed. Me disappointed but still enjoying it.
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maybe im wrong.

but didnt they fuck up most of the Dany story in season 2? for ex: THEY KILL HER FUCKING HORSE AND 1 BLOODRIDER. both of which she still has in book 5.
Rakharo I believe? He's a tiny character, but HBO fucking infuriates me when they pull meaningless deviations like this. Dany's Silver dies on the trek through the Red Waste.
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wow im dumb. ty.

yea, funny thing, as i was reading about the red wedding, i totally had forgotten Danys vision of it. it wasn't until later when i was researching dreams(neds, green, dragon), prophecies(cersei, dani, Azor Azai, Prince that was Promised), and other similar stuff, that i stumbled upon what dany saw in that house and was like, omg wtf that was the red wedding. which means not everything she saw was from the past. which was, what i, originally thought
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I just finished the series last night. The only thing that slightly bugs me is people dying and coming back to life. Yeah yeah I get it, lol i can rez but it seems like a cheap plot device. Death should be more permanent in GRRMs world brews.

Other than that I do love the way things are turning out. Victarion is probably my favorite character right now. When viseron lands in the fighting pits I literally heard a dragon scream while I was reading it that gave me the chills.

I need to go back and read book 3 before the season starts up again. It is clearly the best of the bunch so far.

1 3 6 2 4 is the order of my favorites.
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I just finished the series last night. The only thing that slightly bugs me is people dying and coming back to life. Yeah yeah I get it, lol i can rez but it seems like a cheap plot device. Death should be more permanent in GRRMs world brews.

Other than that I do love the way things are turning out. Victarion is probably my favorite character right now. When viseron lands in the fighting pits I literally heard a dragon scream while I was reading it that gave me the chills.

I need to go back and read book 3 before the season starts up again. It is clearly the best of the bunch so far.

1 3 6 2 4 is the order of my favorites.
they can be brought back, but it seems its expensive, remember Dondarrion had to give up his own life (what was left of it) to bring back Cat. as far as Gregor, we dont know if Gregor was brought back to life, or, if his body parts were used to create a Frankenstein type monster.

i love Victarion as well, but my favorites are still Tyrion, Baelish, and Arya.

it was Drogon in the fighting pits [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] remember people have referred to Drogon as Balerion reborn.

my order of fav: 3, 2, 1, 5, 4 (that can change, but 3 will stay my fav, and 4 would stay my least fav)
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Anonymous (ID: qUzMEv7x) 01/29/13(Tue)06:47:18 No.454584501
Replies: >>454588942 >>454589371 >>454592152

Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. "For the Watch." He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it."

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:30:06 No.454603024
Replies: >>454603168

>>454602746
Essos.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:31:28 No.454603168

>>454603024
Maybe, I think it's the key to the whole story. I heard that some of them goes to thepiratebay though http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/73634...es_aka_Porn_Ac

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:31:51 No.454603214

>>454601219
its far more likely that the whore in bravos was gerion lannisters wife, not tysha,

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)09:31:58 No.454603221
Replies: >>454603471

So I got a couple of scoops from talking to some of the actors this weekend.

First off, Rory McCann (The Hound) underwent about three weeks of practice for a massive combat scene and basically says it's his favorite scene so far.

Second off, episode 9 is the Red wedding. And is very likely to be where Rory's scene happens.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:32:47 No.454603315
Replies: >>454603696

>>454601307
>implying people never lie or mislead one-another in asoiaf
you're actually blind if you don't see it. its painfully obvious

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:34:06 No.454603471
Replies: >>454603701

>>454603221
You don't have to be a genius to guess that season 3 will end at the red wedding, either just before of after Robb/Cath death. It's the cliffhanger of the book if they want to cut it in 2 season

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:34:16 No.454603495

>>454602406
except that its stated MULTIPLE TIMES in book one that robb is older than jon.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)09:36:06 No.454603696

>>454603315
You're a dumbfuck for trying to find it.
This is something GRRM has done before in his other works.
Just sit back and see. GRRM is not a very talented writer when it comes to words, but he isn't a cheap writer either.

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)09:36:07 No.454603701
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>>454603471
It's a ten episode season. Episode nine is the Red Wedding. Episode ten is more like a teaser/lead on into series four.

It was always suspected but it was actually confirmed (albeit unofficially, so you'll have to take my word for it as I don't want to get said actor into trouble).

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Anonymous (ID: PBWQusrb) 01/29/13(Tue)09:38:03 No.454603928

>>454603701

Episode 9 has always been the "shit goes down" episode. Season 1 was Ned. Season 2 was Stannis's invasion.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:39:06 No.454604045

>>454603701
my guess is episode 10 will be the reveal that arya isnt actually dead, her leaving sandor to die in the woods. and the episode will end with her giving the coin to the bravoosi ship captain, and then the final scene in the season will be dondarrion finding catelyns corpse.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:40:23 No.454604195
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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:41:56 No.454604353

>>454603701
Well, it will end at the red wedding its 100% certain, they can't cut it another way. With what you said, I could guess robb and cat death will be in season 3, if its the case, they just can't end the season with that scene, because they will lose a lot of watcher. So a 10th episode to introduce the next events is a good choice. They either end before the death scene, or slightly after, but not on it.
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Anonymous (ID: SFmPUxnF) 01/29/13(Tue)06:57:39 No.454585576
Replies: >>454585712

you're a faggot, although i've read it till the then. i hope you burn in hell

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Anonymous (ID: mOGlyOku) 01/29/13(Tue)06:58:50 No.454585712

>>454585576
Why did you bump this thread?

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Anonymous (ID: Agyp8i2U) 01/29/13(Tue)07:00:26 No.454585865
Replies: >>454586008

You're a fucking ****** jew faggot, why would u spoil it for ppl who haven't read it yet? Everybody besides aryabdies at some point. But ur a dick anyways

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Anonymous (ID: +wADXacZ) 01/29/13(Tue)07:00:48 No.454585896
Replies: >>454586008 >>454586143 >>454586269 >>454588415 >>454592509

It's not a sure thing he's dead, though. Stabbed in the back (lol) yeah, wounded, yeah, dead? Not positive.

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Anonymous (ID: mOGlyOku) 01/29/13(Tue)07:01:49 No.454586008

>>454585896
>>454585865
STAHP!!!!

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:03:07 No.454586143

>>454585896

This. It happens a few times through the books, and so it can't be considered a spoiler.

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Anonymous (ID: PBWQusrb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:04:13 No.454586269
Replies: >>454593210

>>454585896

Yeah, just like Robb and Ned. GRRM *never* kills off a popular character for real.

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Anonymous (ID: vNmm5k1W) 01/29/13(Tue)07:04:32 No.454586316
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I thought this was gonna be some hot fanfic you faggot.

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:06:38 No.454586526
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>mfw Jon Snow, The Hound, Joffrey Baratheon, Catelyn Stark, Rob Stark, Jeor Mormont and Lysa Tulley all die.

Also, fuck the Starks. They deserve to die for being so stupid.

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Anonymous (ID: 9K9fkVxU) 01/29/13(Tue)07:07:44 No.454586640
Replies: >>454588440

could care less what happens to any of the lesser characters like jon.

its all about bran and daenerys. uguu.

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)07:08:24 No.454586737
Replies: >>454586923 >>454587147 >>454590812

He isn't dead. GRRM cuts off the heads of dead people, but even that isn't 100% reliable, e.g. Mountain.

The Red bitch will save Snow. Or Ghost will. But Snow isn't dead, there wouldn't be a cliff hanger if Snow was dead.

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)07:09:43 No.454586918
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>>454586526
The Hound isn't dead, wtf you talking about?

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:09:48 No.454586923
Replies: >>454587112

>>454586737

This is true, Red Priests have the power to resurrect people... But IMO, Jon should stay dead because he's clearly too much of an idiot to play the Game of Thrones.

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:11:11 No.454587112
Replies: >>454587824

>>454586923

>implying Jon will get involved with the game of thrones
>not becoming some kind of medieval duke nukem against the wights

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Anonymous (ID: 1WAA/6H+) 01/29/13(Tue)07:11:27 No.454587147
Replies: >>454587876

>>454586737
yeah i agree, it would have been the centerpiece of the book if jon had died.
I just groaned at the end of DWD because I knew he would be brought back to life.

Also, Daenerys should stop with the angst and fucking rape and pillage everything.

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Anonymous (ID: Agyp8i2U) 01/29/13(Tue)07:12:06 No.454587228
Replies: >>454587306 >>454587876 >>454588124 >>454589836

>>454586918
Yeah he is arya kills him

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:13:03 No.454587306

>>454587228

More like just lets him die. Arya is fucking badass

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:17:55 No.454587824
Replies: >>454588215

>>454587112

Stannis Baratheon had offered him Winterfell. He died because he went to go fight with the bastard Bolton boy who had taken over Winterfell, breaking the laws of the Night's Watch.

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)07:18:27 No.454587876
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>>454587147
Book 7 before D gets her shit together I reckon. Still got loldrama with the Iron Fleet to get through.

>>454587228
No she didn't, she walked away. The Hound is alive and well hoeing turnips in that monastery in the river.

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:20:46 No.454588124

>>454587228
>>454587876
Aye hes right hes the hooded worker with a limp in the monastery when brienne goes there

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:21:48 No.454588215
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>>454587824

True enough. But look at Catelyn, he'll be back and will just be out for revenge. Maybe even against the Night's Watch. Who knows, that's what makes them interesting.

Also, Coldhands is Benjen Stark right? One of the many loose ends but I don't think it's confirmed in any of the books yet

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:23:09 No.454588364
Replies: >>454590014

>>454587876

oh snap you're right. I think.

Fuck it, I'm going to re-read them all.

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Anonymous (ID: OfdFl04F) 01/29/13(Tue)07:23:37 No.454588415
Replies: >>454588617 >>454589018 >>454592509

>>454585896

he was stabbed multiple times,
if Jon Snow survives this GRR Martin is just a cheap fuck and his next book not worth reading

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Anonymous (ID: 8Zf0/YuC) 01/29/13(Tue)07:23:52 No.454588440

>>454586640

you mean couldn't care less. If you COULD care less, then you care to a degree above zero. thus you care. if you couldn't care less then your caring is at zero. thus could not be lower.

how do you amerifats not get this?

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:24:55 No.454588537
Replies: >>454588665

>>454588215

Yes, I am definitely thinking Coldhands is Benjen Stark. He disappeared in book one and was never seen again, then this guy shows up out of nowhere to help Bran.

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:25:46 No.454588617
Replies: >>454589028

>>454588415
He'l survive it, jon is Azhor Azhai

>>454588215
We genuinely dunno who coldhands is, def an undead/a black brother, i reckon most likely the nights king

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:26:19 No.454588665
Replies: >>454588950

>>454588537

It was when he was helping Sam that I started to think it was Benjen. Randomly helping Night's Watch, doesn't seem a popular thing to be doing

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:29:12 No.454588942

>>454584501 (OP)
lol, OP is a dick. I've read it, but still... hope anyone midway through the series doesn't stumble across this. Also, this was *another* one of the many moments in this series where I just wanted to throw the book across the room and rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Always picked the book back up though.

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:29:23 No.454588950
Replies: >>454589193 >>454589524

>>454588665
Why would he not reveal himself to bran then? and why would bran not recognise his voice?

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)07:29:59 No.454589018
Replies: >>454589156

>>454588215
Yes, Benjen Stark is Coldhands.

>>454588415
Jon will come back as a 1/2 lava monster. GRRM has already foreshadowed this with the Iron Fleet guy and his stone hand.

Either that or he becomes Ghost, again foreshadowed with Mormont in the Crow and more directly with the Wildlings.

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:30:05 No.454589028
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>>454588617
What makes you think Jon is Azhor Azhai?

I get the conspiracy he's the bastard son of Rhaeger and Ned's sister, but beyond that, what is there to suggest?

I'm thinking everyone has it wrong and it's Danaerys. She is the blood of the dragon, cannot be harmed by fire and resurrected 3 dragons. If she manages to reclaim Westeros, she stands the best chance against the Others

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Anonymous (ID: 67+EcJAk) 01/29/13(Tue)07:31:15 No.454589156

>>454589018
And the part with melissandre seeing jon as a human then a wolf and then a human again

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:31:42 No.454589193
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>>454588950

Why would he have helped Bran in the first place?

I think he does recognise his voice eventually, it's just that Coldhands always has a scarf around his face/mouth

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Anonymous (ID: C2rTPMJo) 01/29/13(Tue)07:33:26 No.454589371

>>454584501 (OP)
Sounds like an abortion

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Anonymous (ID: 9K9fkVxU) 01/29/13(Tue)07:33:47 No.454589409
Replies: >>454589549 >>454589616

>>454589028
spoiler: its Jon and Daenerys' future child that is the reincarnation of Azor Ahai

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:35:02 No.454589524
Replies: >>454589734

>>454589193
>>454588950

Bran would have been very, very young when he last saw Benjen Stark. He probably doesn't remember. I'm pretty sure Jon and Robb were only 14 when they last saw him.

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:35:17 No.454589549
Replies: >>454590232

>>454589409

Wait what? No, you've gone too far down the rabbit hole there.

I could see Jon being Azor reborn rather than Stannis.

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:36:00 No.454589616

>>454589409

> Implying that Jon survived being stabbed multiple times.

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:36:01 No.454589617

>>454589028
Various prophecys, and other things that i cba listing, google it

>>454589193
Because hes a black brother, an undead who's kept his mind and memories, probably by the magic of the children of the forest and it wouldnt be hard after that to convince him to get bran and help him to get to them

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)07:36:12 No.454589631
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“It is written in prophecy as well. When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone.”
--Melisandre, SoS, pg. 289

Stannis was marching south into peril, the king who carried the fate of the world upon his
shoulders, Azor Ahai reborn. Surely R’hllor would vouchsafe her a glimpse of what awaited him. Show
me Stannis, Lord, she prayed. Show me your king, your instrument.
The flames crackled softly, and in their crackling she heard the whispered name Jon Snow. His
long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a
shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain.
> Melisandre's chapter in DwD

Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children.
>night gathers
>DARKNESS GATHERS

Wun Wun did not hear or did not understand. The giant was bleeding himself, with sword cuts
on his belly and his arm. He swung the dead knight against the grey stone of the tower, again and again
and again, until the man’s head was red and pulpy as a summer melon. The knight’s cloak flapped in the
cold air. Of white wool it had been, bordered in cloth-of-silver and patterned with blue stars. Blood and
bone were flying everywhere.
>patterned with blue STARS,
>When the red star bleeds

Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. “For the Watch.” He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it.
>tears
>SALT

Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger’s hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking.
>SMOKE

>implying jon isnt moments away from being reborn as azor ahai

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:36:46 No.454589692
Replies: >>454590357 >>454590956

>>454589028
dammit... been too long since i've read the series. need to reread to catch up on shit.

when's the next book release?

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Anonymous (ID: sYaw4t8M) 01/29/13(Tue)07:36:51 No.454589703

he comes back as one of those dead faggots like coldhands

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:37:06 No.454589734
Replies: >>454590341

>>454589524

I think in the first book (halfway through reading them all again) Jon is 14 and Robb is 16 at the feast when Robert visits Winterfell, Benjen is there too. And Bran is 9? Old enough I'd say

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Anonymous (ID: EM7SBuPn) 01/29/13(Tue)07:38:13 No.454589836
Replies: >>454590096

>>454587228
the hound is dead...sandor clegane is not

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Anonymous (ID: coW7xcfQ) 01/29/13(Tue)07:39:01 No.454589923

Snow can't die tard

Because the entire Night Watch arc will fall apart if he dies since there are no other people that matter still live in the north

I could've believed that he may die if Samwell is still around the north, but he's not.

Both Daenerys and Jon are the two characters that are irreplacable for the moment

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:39:21 No.454589952

>>454589631
pretty well played, sir. interesting.

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Anonymous (ID: BzTn0CBH) 01/29/13(Tue)07:39:32 No.454589976
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Arya took after their lord father. Her hair was a lusterless brown, and her face was long and solemn. Jeyne used to call her Arya Horseface, and neigh whenever she came near.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)07:40:00 No.454590014
Replies: >>454590283

>>454588364
His brother is dead.

He's totally not Frankensteined into a knight who has taken a "vow of silence," never removes his helm and is never seen to eat.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)07:40:14 No.454590034
Replies: >>454590471 >>454590525 >>454593406

>>454589631
also victarion.
Come sunset, as the sea turned black as ink
>darkness gathers, salt
and the swollen sun tinted the sky a deep and
bloody red,
>bleeding star
Victarion came back on deck. He was naked from the waist up, his left arm blood to the
elbow. As his crew gathered, whispering and trading glances, he raised a charred and blackened hand.
Wisps of dark smoke rose from his fingers as he pointed at the maester.
>smoke


victarion, danaerys, and jon have all been reborn amidst salt and smoke, under a bleeing star. all 3 of them meet the criteria.
azor ahai reborn, the prince that was promised and the last hero are 3 different names for the same prophecy. victarion, dany, and jon are 3 different facets of the same hero. together they comprise worshipers of all 4 of the major religions in the world. they will form a triumverate and defeat the others together. you know it to be true

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:40:47 No.454590096

>>454589836

Didn't the Hound's helmet get stolen by one of the Brotherhood Without Banners?

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)07:42:22 No.454590232
Replies: >>454590406 >>454593867

>>454589549
Stannis is definitely not the guy.

1) Stannis' sword didn't give off any heat
2) He's a fucking Baratheon, and the Targeryen blood in their veins is so thin it might as well be water
3) When the Red Lady looks into the fire for Azor Ahai, she sees Jon.

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:42:55 No.454590283

>>454590014

I meant Sandor, not Gregor

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Anonymous (ID: EllsRIBU) 01/29/13(Tue)07:42:56 No.454590286

Arya's story gives me such a raging brainer.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)07:43:34 No.454590341
Replies: >>454594265

>>454589734
Wat? Jon is older than Robb, you dumbshit. Ned didn't even meet Catelyn until after the war, and he brought Jon back with him.

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)07:43:40 No.454590357
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>>454589692
>when's the next book release?

lol

Before 2020 hopefully. At the current rate, I'm guessing 2015 at the earliest.

I heard that he wanted to get the HBO series up to the end of DWD before working on the next one, but then there are sample chapters on his website already, so who knows?

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Anonymous (ID: 0XaiXjoz) 01/29/13(Tue)07:44:03 No.454590406

>>454590232

So what you're saying is.. Hodor is Azor reborn?

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:44:43 No.454590471
Replies: >>454590713 >>454591517

>>454590034
Danaerys is obvious. She was reborn out of the fire with three dragons.

Jon Snow could still very much be dead.

Victarion? I don't see the connection. He's some war hungry cunt who wants to root Danaerys and take over Westeros. I don't think Danaerys will have a bar of him.

There is still Rhaeger's son, who is returning to Westeros to reclaim his throne, and has the blood of the dragon in him...

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:45:06 No.454590525

>>454590034
i like you.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)07:45:25 No.454590573

>>454590357
Never fear. He's already outlined the plot of the rest of the series to the producers of the show so when he inevitably dies of old age and football worship the plot won't get retarded beyond what he envisioned.

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:46:35 No.454590706
Replies: >>454593016

Presenting the most interesting person in westeros.. its HOWLAD REED! An enigma who contains all the answers

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:46:38 No.454590713
Replies: >>454590829 >>454591129

>>454590471
Rhaegor's son is an interesting point. seems a bit obvious though, considering GRRM's style.

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Anonymous (ID: Rjxn+vOw) 01/29/13(Tue)07:47:34 No.454590812
Replies: >>454594515

>>454586737
Mountain's head wasn't cut off - the head sent to Donre was only a skull of some dead fucker with a big head. Mountain died of the poison, right? Where did it say Qybyrn cut his head off?

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:47:42 No.454590829
Replies: >>454591164

>>454590713
Not if its jon..

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)07:48:50 No.454590956
Replies: >>454592175

>>454589692
>when's the next book release?
when its done.
grrm hasnt said a thing about when it will be ready. so another 2 years at least

its very likely he will die before book 7 is finished

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)07:50:25 No.454591129

>>454590713
Well Danaerys has been pretty obvious since about halfway through book 1, unless something fucked up happens to her. Which it could.

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:50:46 No.454591164
Replies: >>454591719 >>454592032

>>454590829
i know, that's what i'm saying. The Prince That Lives would be an obvious answer to the reincarnation debate. and GRRM is never obvious.

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Anonymous (ID: 9K9fkVxU) 01/29/13(Tue)07:51:38 No.454591269

>reading through the asoiafwiki
>dragons in this universe are genderless
wat
was hoping for hot dragonsex on hbo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Anonymous (ID: fYGcrwXJ) 01/29/13(Tue)07:51:40 No.454591270

>>454588215
Coldhands seems to be way older than Benjen Stark, who was Ned's little brother. How could one (first, but whatever) ranger learn everything about the Others and prophecies and three-eyed crows and whatnot within the two (?) years he's been away? No, Coldhands is more likely the Night King as was said earlier.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)07:54:13 No.454591517
Replies: >>454591619 >>454591719 >>454591767 >>454591859 >>454592047 >>454594256

>>454590471
its already been made painfully obvious that jon is the bastard son of raegar and lyanna. he was born at the tower of joy lot long before eddard and his entourage showed up and killed the 3 kingsguard members who were guarding it (why would the kingsguard be guarding lyanna stark and not protecting thier prince, who was riding off to war?) in ned's dreams he remembers lyanna lying on a bed of roses, in medieval times rose petals were used to attempt to mask the smell of childbirth. ned remembers lyanna asking him to promise her something, but he never says what. its pretty obvious the promise is for him to protect jon from Robert, who would doubtless have jon killed if he knew that the woman he was infatuated with had fallen in love with, and had a child with his sworn enemy.
of the people who were there that day, howland reed is the only one still alive. he is the only one who knows the truth about jon's parents

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)07:55:13 No.454591619
Replies: >>454592085

>>454591517
not long before*
also lyanna obviously died from childbirth. since in eddards dreams he sees her in a pool of blood on the bed

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Anonymous (ID: JN6mnU7z) 01/29/13(Tue)07:55:58 No.454591719
Replies: >>454591859 >>454592165

>>454591164
>>454591517

How would it? I would never have known it as a theroy without the internet, and i'm sure a large amount of grrm's readers wont be looking online for theories, it makes sense once you see the evidence behind it but otherwise, only a small amount of readers would reach that conclusion on their own

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:56:28 No.454591767

>>454591517
>mind... blown?
must reread.

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Anonymous (ID: EEr9l0hl) 01/29/13(Tue)07:57:07 No.454591834

He's not dead unless book #6 says so. Thank god I read them all, OP is still a dick though.

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)07:57:22 No.454591859

>>454591719
right.
>>454591517
>small amount
mfw i'm not included in the small amount

makes sense.

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Anonymous (ID: fGyc8KtM) 01/29/13(Tue)07:58:53 No.454592032
Replies: >>454592143

>>454591164

This is true whatever you think is obviously going to happen absolutly never fucking happens

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)07:59:02 No.454592047
Replies: >>454592551

>>454591517
And possibly Varys, as Ned could have confessed the night before he died.

However Bran will find out through the Heart Tree's collective memory thing.

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Anonymous (ID: s0MPfJEg) 01/29/13(Tue)07:59:15 No.454592065
Replies: >>454593016

I've read all the books, but most people tend to spoil the Red Wedding not Jon's supposed death

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)07:59:24 No.454592085

>>454591619
inb4 some Stark-hating "waaah Jon is mary sue" faggot who won't read between the lines

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Anonymous (ID: 6KT9kyF6) 01/29/13(Tue)08:00:05 No.454592143
Replies: >>454592313 >>454593016

>>454592032
Dont forget Littlefinger and his fucking sticky mess of webs.

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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:00:11 No.454592152

>>454584501 (OP)
Finished this book last week so hah fuck you.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:00:18 No.454592165
Replies: >>454592623 >>454592821

>>454591719
Aegon being alive means he is the rightful heir to the throne, not danaerys since despite her being older, hes male. and the targaryens only allow the females to inherit if there are no male heirs.
this makes danaerys less to the story
however, when aegon the conquerer brought dorne into the seven kingdoms, he promised them they could keep thier own laws, and dornish law says the eldest heir inherits the title, regardless of their gender.

danaerys will land in dorne, and take up arms against her nephew, aegon will be dead before the end of book 7, i promise you, it would make no sense for the winner of the story be someone who has only been introduced recently, instead of the character we've been learning about all series long

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Anonymous (ID: Wci7WOk9) 01/29/13(Tue)08:00:27 No.454592175

>>454590956
Im kinda thinking that will happen as well, I really hope it doesnt, but there is a good chance it will

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Anonymous (ID: XCYW+d0a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:00:27 No.454592176
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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)08:01:00 No.454592227
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Anonymous (ID: vNmm5k1W) 01/29/13(Tue)08:01:13 No.454592253
Replies: >>454592412 >>454593016
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this man will never live long enough to write another book and deep inside you know this.

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Anonymous (ID: EEr9l0hl) 01/29/13(Tue)08:01:17 No.454592263
Replies: >>454592353

>>454586918
It is implied that he surivived and joined the monks on the Quiet Isle.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:01:43 No.454592313
Replies: >>454592614 >>454593016

>>454592143
>tfw you know Sansa is going to learn the game from Littlefinger and then outplay him

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Anonymous (ID: vNmm5k1W) 01/29/13(Tue)08:02:06 No.454592353
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>>454592263
yeah I missed that, had to have someone point it out to me.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)08:02:36 No.454592412
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>>454592253
That's what im afraid of, that this tard don't live long enough to finish is fucking story

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Anonymous (ID: vNmm5k1W) 01/29/13(Tue)08:03:05 No.454592471
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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:03:25 No.454592509
Replies: >>454594256

>>454585896
>>454588415
Jon is Azhor Azhai his soul is going to go into ghost that's what the prologue was for and then he'll be resurrected born of salt and fire. Tears are the salt, fire he'll be resurrected in the fashion that Thorros resurrected people. Jons is one of the heads of the dragon because his parents are pretty clearly Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen

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Anonymous (ID: fGyc8KtM) 01/29/13(Tue)08:03:30 No.454592523
Replies: >>454592895

Implying that he will finish the whole story by book 7 seriously ****** this was originally meant to be a trilogy can he really wrap up all this shit in only 2 books?

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:03:50 No.454592551
Replies: >>454593026 >>454593924

>>454592047
i think ned stark confessing his greatest secret, a secret that coud put his nephew who he raised as his own son in mortal danger from anyone with aspirations to the iron throne, to a man who he hates, and who is very open about the fact that he should not be trusted, would be quite out of the question for a man as intelligent and cautious as ned stark

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Anonymous (ID: vNmm5k1W) 01/29/13(Tue)08:04:02 No.454592570
Replies: >>454592992 >>454593803
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this is my favorite fan art

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)08:04:23 No.454592614

>>454592313
Yes, oh please yes... I sincerely hope this happens. I hate all the Starks, they're the stupidest House in all of Westeros. But I would love to see Sansa exact some cunning revenge. It would be some nice character development for her.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:04:27 No.454592623

>>454592165
less important to the story*

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Anonymous (ID: 3QUWgeU4) 01/29/13(Tue)08:05:46 No.454592789
Replies: >>454594256 >>454594940
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This theory has been brought up a few times, one more time wont hurt.

It feels out of character for Rhaegar to kidnap lyanna, him being the perfect knight in every single way.
It feels out of character for Eddard Stark to forget his honor and bang some random broad.

Rhaegar Targaryen did not kidnap and rape Lyanna, they elope together and fuck like rabbits.
BANG! War and shit, roberts all ready to fuck some serious shit up. He loved her, so he convinced himself that she was kidnapped.
Lyanna becomes pregnant, gives birth to a son.
Makes Ned promise on her deathbed to keep him safe, which he does at the expense of his honor.

God I hope this is the case, i'm for real getting goosebumps just writing this.

God fucking damnit Ned.
>mfw

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:06:05 No.454592821

>>454592165
Dany and Jon will join forces and/or get married too.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)08:06:46 No.454592887
Replies: >>454593362 >>454593714
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Jon, Aegon and Daenerys are the 3 Targaryen still alive. But there's Victarion Greyjoy and his horn. And the fact that Tyrion might well kill Aegon

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Anonymous (ID: Wci7WOk9) 01/29/13(Tue)08:06:50 No.454592895

>>454592523
Can he really live long enough to write two books?

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:07:42 No.454592992

>>454592570
Amazing fucking concept, but how do you make Lena Heady look uglier than she was in Dredd?

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)08:07:53 No.454593016

>>454592313
well... yeah.
>>454592143
true, will be interesting
>>454592065
yes, i accidentally did that once to someone... felt horrible about it.
>>454592253
probably. i am disappoint.
>>454590706
seems likely.

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)08:07:57 No.454593026
Replies: >>454593219 >>454593656

>>454592551
Ned Stark was neither cautious nor intelligent.

Littlefinger had warned him countless times about how treacherous King's Landing was and yet he continued to bumble around and fuck everything up for himself by taking everyone at face value. Trusting Littlefinger, as he was told not to, being merciful to Cersei, trusting Varys... the man deserved to die. What a half wit.

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Anonymous (ID: SnF4Tabv) 01/29/13(Tue)08:09:44 No.454593210

>>454586269
yes they still live on in our hearts

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:09:48 No.454593219
Replies: >>454593427 >>454593621

>>454593026
He wasn't an idiot, he was just far too rigid in his principles.

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)08:11:01 No.454593362
Replies: >>454593613 >>454596481

>>454592887
>Tyrion might well kill Aegon

wut. has it been that long since i've read the series or am i just too deep into my case of beer... why is this a possibility?

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:11:25 No.454593406

>>454590034
also add to this, the constant repetition of the phrase
>the dragon has three heads
throughout the series.
dany owns 3 dragons, she seeks two husbands to ride them with her.
Azor ahai reborn is 3 people.

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Anonymous (ID: z7H+qCEj) 01/29/13(Tue)08:11:41 No.454593427

>>454593219
That is idiocy. He went in to Kings Landing knowing that the previous hand of the King was killed for asking too many questions and the moron STILL went in with zero discretion.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)08:13:23 No.454593613
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>>454593362
Because Aegon knows where whores go and don't want to tell it to Tyrion

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)08:13:30 No.454593621

>>454593219
>far too rigid in his principles
or
>wasn't an idiot

pick one, because the two options you've presented are one in the same.

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Anonymous (ID: 6KT9kyF6) 01/29/13(Tue)08:13:46 No.454593656

>>454593026
He was a man of honor, not a half wit. He was a military genius, nothing like anyone in King's landing.

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Anonymous (ID: Wci7WOk9) 01/29/13(Tue)08:14:18 No.454593714
Replies: >>454593852

>>454592887
What would make you think that? From what I recall, been a while since I last read the books, Tyrion never gave an indication of planning to kill him

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)08:14:50 No.454593775
Replies: >>454593852

>>454593613
lol'd.

still need an answer. Tyrion, from my impression, appeared to side with Aegon.

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)08:15:04 No.454593803
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>>454592570
I like this pic.

Anyone have the pic of Maisie Williams posing with the anon's where you can see her tits?

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Anonymous (ID: y8bNH5cb) 01/29/13(Tue)08:15:26 No.454593852

>>454593714
>>454593775
these

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:15:31 No.454593867
Replies: >>454594779

>>454590232
>He's a fucking Baratheon, and the Targeryen blood in their veins is so thin it might as well be water
not true at all. stannis's grandmother was rhaelle targaryen, the daughter of aegon V (aegon the unlikely, "egg" from the tales of dunk and egg) who was the grandfather of mad king aerys. which means stanis's father steffon was the mad king's cousin.

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Anonymous (ID: 1ZgPEiOU) 01/29/13(Tue)08:15:58 No.454593924

>>454592551
>intelligent and cautious
>ned stark
pick one

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)08:16:05 No.454593941

And Daenerys dont give a shit about Jon or Aegon.

Daenerys will end with Victarion Greyjoy, and every teenage fag will rage about that.

You think this story will end nice ? Don't think so

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Anonymous (ID: Rjxn+vOw) 01/29/13(Tue)08:18:44 No.454594256
Replies: >>454594741

>>454592789
>>454592509
>>454591517

Is this for real? I never realised, I feel fucking dumb now. I mean, I'm currently reading book one and there,
>Jon and Arya are the only ones who look like Ned in the family

So it comes as more of a shock now. I must pay attention on my "Waiting for Winds of Winter to come out"-re-read of the whole series.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:18:52 No.454594265
Replies: >>454594741

>>454590341
nope. totally wrong.
neds brother brandon and his father were killed by mad king aerys, ned was hastily married to catelyn in his stead, since brandon had been betrothed to her. they had sex on their wedding night, which is when cat got pregnant with robb, the ned hastily rode off to war with robert, and brought jon back with him 2 years later

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:20:16 No.454594418

>>454587876
You didn't read carefully then:

Elder brother says:

I covered him with stones to keep the carrion eaters from digging up his flesh, and set his helm atop the cairn to mark his final resting place. That was a grievous error. Some other wayfarer found my marker and claimed it for himself. The man who raped and killed at Saltpans was not Sandor Clegane, though he may be as dangerous.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:21:04 No.454594515
Replies: >>454595000 >>454595026

>>454590812
Robert strong is a frankensteins monster created with the mountain's decapitated corpse. he never removes his helmet, and someone (perhaps ned) has a dream in one of the ealier books about a large knight with blood pouring out of his eyes, when he removes his helmet there is nothing there

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Anonymous (ID: J7yojUev) 01/29/13(Tue)08:23:04 No.454594741
Replies: >>454595042 >>454595382 >>454595415 >>454595626

>>454594256
Wow. It's pretty much a given by book 3 and damn near confirmed in DWD. The whole reason for the war was Lyanna rejected Robert in favour of Rhygar. The Mad King was only the excuse they came up with afterwards.

>>454594265
You're dumb. Book one they tell us Jon is older.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:23:24 No.454594779

>>454593867
That's correct. House Baratheon is connected to the Targeryens very closely.

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Anonymous (ID: oWTYjeKg) 01/29/13(Tue)08:24:50 No.454594940
Replies: >>454595061

>anyone who hasn't read the books yet

You deserve what you get.

>>454592789

No, this makes too much sense. Poor Ned... ;_;

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Anonymous (ID: OfdFl04F) 01/29/13(Tue)08:24:54 No.454594949
Replies: >>454596378

if it was classic fantasy tyrion would tame one of the dragons, go/fly backand burn Cercei

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)08:25:23 No.454595000
Replies: >>454595792 >>454595979

>>454594515
A couple of us have got the ongoing horrible suspicion that Robert Strong is actually Gregor's body attached to Joffreys head.

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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:25:37 No.454595026

>>454594515
Bran has the dream

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Anonymous (ID: 8q6k/tZW) 01/29/13(Tue)08:25:39 No.454595031
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mfw I already read all existing books.

But, it wasn't clear if he died or not. I hope he will survive it somehow.

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Anonymous (ID: Rjxn+vOw) 01/29/13(Tue)08:25:47 No.454595042

>>454594741
Ah - there's been so long timespans between me reading the books, I've lost all track of the previous history details it seems, reason for Robert's rebellion too.

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Anonymous (ID: 3QUWgeU4) 01/29/13(Tue)08:26:03 No.454595061

>>454594940
I know right?
It really does give me goose bumps,

God I really like these books, might do a re-read sometime soon

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:28:44 No.454595382

>>454594741
No, it doesn't say that. Fuck, on pg.15 it says they are just of the same age.It later says that Robb is older in Jon's POV in the hall.

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Anonymous (ID: 3QUWgeU4) 01/29/13(Tue)08:29:01 No.454595415

>>454594741
But the king was most certainly mad and his son fucking up a marriage deal by eloping with Lyanna and inciting a civil war did most certainly push him over the edge and it gave everyone an excuse to fuck shit up

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)08:29:58 No.454595529
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So do you guys think Loras will change his armor/style now that he's all mutilated and shit?

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Anonymous (ID: OfdFl04F) 01/29/13(Tue)08:30:20 No.454595583
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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:30:41 No.454595626
Replies: >>454595865 >>454596104

>>454594741
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jon_Snow
>Jon has an older half-brother Robb, two younger half-sisters Sansa and Arya, and two younger half-brothers Bran and Rickon.
>older half-brother
>older
go reread book one you pleb.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:32:04 No.454595792
Replies: >>454596081 >>454596274

>>454595000
cersei is the one who rpvides qyburn with his corpses, i find it highly unliekly she would allow him to decapitate the corpse of her favourite son to create an undead monstrosity/

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Anonymous (ID: 3QUWgeU4) 01/29/13(Tue)08:32:38 No.454595865
Replies: >>454596901

>>454595626
They were both fourteen in the first book though, doesnt eliminate the fact that one of them is older I suppose. But simply by a few months

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Anonymous (ID: 4kg9u1UL) 01/29/13(Tue)08:33:30 No.454595974
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Gollum left his cave in search of the ring himself, and the Dark Lord caught him in Mordor. Then Gollum died.

Classic George R.R Martin right there.

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Anonymous (ID: 3QUWgeU4) 01/29/13(Tue)08:33:31 No.454595979
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>>454595000
My fucking face when this post

Also nice trips.

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)08:34:16 No.454596081

>>454595792
I think Cersei would go to any lengths to bring her children back.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:34:29 No.454596104

>>454595626
Don't use /lit slang on here.
Besides, those literati fucking foam at the mouth if you bring this series up. They are too deep into their classics and ancient books to appreciate this series.
Plus 1 internets though for looking up information.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:35:40 No.454596274

>>454595792
She fucked her brother infront of said corpse.
I don't think she's the kind of stable woman to really care.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:36:23 No.454596378
Replies: >>454596704 >>454597145

>>454594949
>cersei has been haunted by the propphecy made by maggy(maegi) the frog when she was a child all her life.
>the "valonquar" will come to end her life
valonquar means "little brother". and cersei is convinced it means tyrion. which is why she is so paranoid.

>so far every prophecy in the books has come true, but not in the way that it was expected to. GRRM is too good a writer to allow a chance for delicious irony to be missed

>despite being twins, cersei was born first
>jaime is cerseis "little brother"

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:37:17 No.454596481

>>454593362
Because Tyrion is a fucking badass, that's why.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:38:56 No.454596704
Replies: >>454597028 >>454597145 >>454597226 >>454597659

>>454596378
I didn't realize the prophecy said so, but I always assumed it would be Jaime who eventually killed her.

He's going to be redeemed by the end of the books, mark my words.

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:39:16 No.454596749

>>454595583
That doesnt even make sense

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:40:22 No.454596901

>>454595865
they were both born in 283AL, which makes them both 14 at the time of the first book. but Robb is older, by at least a few months, rob has already been born by the time ned returns to winterfell with the newborn jon

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Anonymous (ID: 9K9fkVxU) 01/29/13(Tue)08:41:06 No.454597028

>>454596704
>He's going to be redeemed by the end of the books, mark my words.
well duh.
its the entire point of the Brianne story arc

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:41:38 No.454597108

>>454593803
Where in the fuck did you find this. It can't be. She honestly can't be that fucking dumb.

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:41:53 No.454597145
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>>454596378
>>454596704
Sandor clegane is Cerseis champion as ser strong. The faith must need a champion now. A champion of faith.
Hmmm who has just conveniently become a monk?

The hound ofcourse! Who is Sandor's Valonquar.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:42:32 No.454597226
Replies: >>454597803

>>454596704
dude. hes already been redeemed, he was redeemed the moment he said "no" and threw cersei's letter into the fire. he lost his hand and stopped being a "sword" and became a real person. he's realized cersei is a toxic bitch, and hes fallen in love with brienne, a woman so ugly he would never have been caught dead with before he lost his hand.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:44:02 No.454597429
Replies: >>454597614

>>454597145
sandor is younger than gregor. but you are right, it is possible that sandor is the valonquar. since maggy the frog didnt specify that it would be CEREI's valonquar who would kill her.

still i think it would be more fitting, and make for better storytelling, if it was jaime, redeeming himself for all his past wrongdoings, who killed her.

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:45:25 No.454597614

>>454597429
>>454597145
Whoops mixed up Sandor and Gregor. But still, I make a good point

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)08:45:51 No.454597659
Replies: >>454598291

>>454596704
Tyrion was manipulated and tortured by Tywin.
Jaime was manipulated and tortured by Cersei

Both Jaime and Tyrion are victims of being born into families full of manipulative evil cunts, and both are only just coming to realize just how much their relatives fucked them over.

The thing is I think they're both inevitably fucked because Daenerys is the sort of person who will hunt them down and kill them just because they're Lannisters.

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Anonymous (ID: 3QUWgeU4) 01/29/13(Tue)08:46:13 No.454597716

I always read Sandor as Sandro for some reason.
All mediterranean and shit

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:46:26 No.454597746
Replies: >>454597960

>>454597145
The Hound is dead.
Elder Brother states, in no uncertain terms that he buried Sandor and covered his corpse with stones. He placed the helm on the marker but someone stole it later on. He even admits that he couldn't save him from the infected wounds.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:46:55 No.454597803

>>454597226
>hes fallen in love with brienne,
Whoa whoa whoa, back the fuck up. When did this happen?

I get that he respects her now, but I don't remember love entering the equation.

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:48:01 No.454597960
Replies: >>454598039 >>454598194

>>454597746
>Implying he isn't a gravedigger on the quiet isles.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)08:48:36 No.454598039
Replies: >>454598491

>>454597960
People don't ever lie in ASOIAF.

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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:48:49 No.454598067
Replies: >>454598615

>>454595529
I don't even think Loras is injured I think it's fake.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:49:48 No.454598194
Replies: >>454598575 >>454598769

>>454597960
You don't have a very good memory, do you?
I covered him with stones to keep the carrion eaters from digging up his flesh, and set his helm atop the cairn to mark his final resting place. That was a grievous error. Some other wayfarer found my marker and claimed it for himself. The man who raped and killed at Saltpans was not Sandor Clegane, though he may be as dangerous.

F.O.C Chapter 31, Brienne's POV

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:50:17 No.454598267

>>454597145
My previous comment was not as mindblowing to people as i might have hoped. Sad now.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:50:26 No.454598291

>>454597659
GRRM has a knack for making two characters who are both awesome, hate each-other because of a misunderstanding or unfortunate reasons. tyrion hates jaime because he lied about tysha being a whore, jaime hates tyrion because he thinks he murdered joffrey and tywin (half-true) jon hates tyrion because he thought he was his friend, but was later led to beleive that he had something to do with neds death/the attempt on brans life.

why the fuck cant everyone just get along [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] i want at least ONE bro-mance between 2 of my favourite characters

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Anonymous (ID: CFR3w5Sc) 01/29/13(Tue)08:51:09 No.454598387

>>454593803
NEED

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)08:51:53 No.454598491
Replies: >>454598575

>>454598039
Wouldn't be fitting of a monk and nor would it explain why the helm was taken by someone else.

Gregor is also dead.

Sandor is a minor character, in any case.

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:52:34 No.454598575

>>454598491
>>454598194
>454598194
>>454598194
the gravedigger at the Quiet Island is Sandor, there are numerous several references to it:

1. The gravedigger is a notably big man (like Sandor).

2. The gravedigger is injuried, and his injuries matches those Sandor has recieved.

3. Dog coming up to gravedigger and gravdigger's petting him is a obvious nod at the gravedigger's being Sandor.

4. When Brienne asks the abbot if Sandor is dead, he curiously replies that "he is in peace"; obviously meaning to mislead Brienne into believing that Sandor is dead without lying outright.

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)08:52:52 No.454598615

>>454598067
I thought it was stated in the books that he had been hit by burning oil in a battle and it disfigured his face.

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Anonymous (ID: liLVBtWa) 01/29/13(Tue)08:53:12 No.454598657

this thread is simply fabulous

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:54:01 No.454598769

>>454598194
>HERPA DERPA DURR I FAIL AT READING BETWEEN THE LINES

>“The Hound is dead, Sandor is at rest.”
>“The man you hunt is dead."
>"The Hound died there, in my arms."
not "the hound is dead", he never said "sandor is dead"

>"I never saw the blow that felled me. Before I could turn something slammed into my head and knocked me back into the river, where by rights I should have drowned. Instead I woke here, upon the Quiet Isle. The Elder Brother told me I had washed up on the tide, naked as my name day. We are all born naked, so I suppose it was only fitting that I come into my second life the same way."
the monks refer to their life on the island as a "second life"

sandors horse is on the island, the elder says he found him with sandor, and brought him to the island, despite the horse being described as viscious and hostile to anyone who isnt sandor

>The Seven have blessed our Elder Brother with healing hands. He has restored many a man to health that even the maesters could not cure, and many a woman too.

>They passed a lichyard where a brother bigger than Brienne was struggling to dig a grave. From the way he moved, it was plain to see that he was lame. As he flung a spadeful of the stony soil over one shoulder, some chanced to spatter against their feet. “Be more watchful there,” chided Brother Narbert. The gravedigger lowered his head. When Dog went to sniff him he dropped his spade and scratched his ear. “A novice,” explained Narbert.

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Anonymous (ID: OfdFl04F) 01/29/13(Tue)08:54:08 No.454598785
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Peter Dinklage is fucking Maisie Williams !

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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:54:40 No.454598851
Replies: >>454599226 >>454601625

>>454598491
Gregor is Robert Strong are you that slow?

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)08:54:51 No.454598873

>>454598769
a novice. meaning hes new to the island. also described as bigger than brienne, (brienne is huge), novices wear cowls over their faces, he pats the dog, sandor loves dogs.

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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:55:23 No.454598942

>>454598615
It was stated but that doesn't mean it's true

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Anonymous (ID: vSgLAnGP) 01/29/13(Tue)08:57:49 No.454599226
Replies: >>454599308 >>454599648 >>454599763

>>454598851
>>454598769
SO WE CAN NOW ALL AGREE THAT THE HOUND SHALL BE THE VALONQUAR AND SHALL KILL CERSEI BY KILLING HER CHAMPION.

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Anonymous (ID: OyfOfoHu) 01/29/13(Tue)08:58:29 No.454599308

>>454599226
I thought it would be Jaime but now I have my doubts

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:01:00 No.454599648

>>454599226
Nope, gotta be Jaime taking her head himself to mark the end of his road to redemption.

He'll die straight away, but that's the ultimate price.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:01:45 No.454599763
Replies: >>454599906

>>454599226
the monks of the island are a separate sect, they don't answer to the high septon. and i dont see why the high septon would pick his champion from some tiny island in buttfuck nowhere. its possible, but i still think it makes far more sense for jaime to be the valonquar. weve already seen his hatred for cersei slowly building ever since he lost his hand. it would be a better story if he did it, and grrm has a knack for writing good stories

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:02:49 No.454599906
Replies: >>454600161

>>454599763
I reckon Sandor's going to live out his life in peace in that monastery, and it will be one of the few good ends in the series.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:02:56 No.454599924
Replies: >>454600250 >>454600289 >>454600603 >>454600769

Anyone have a link to the 2 leaked chapter of the next book ?

Btw, if you want to predict the future of this story you have to keep in mind that's its not lotr . This story will NOT end nicely.

Jon, Daenerys, Aegon are the 3 heads, but it doesn't matter at all. Aegon will not have Daenerys favors, he's to much beta, not a real man. I don't think Jon will make it too. As I said Victarion + Daenerys is the most probable.

Arya will have to kill someone she loves, either through a faceless man contract or a test.
Sansa will outplay littlefinger that's for sure, but I don't know how her story will evolve.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:04:26 No.454600106
Replies: >>454600207 >>454600542

And the hound is dead, dead and dead.

I think it was confirmed by Martin

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:04:51 No.454600161

>>454599906
me too. in fact, i doubt GRRM will ever actually "confirm" in the story that the gravedigger is sandor. its much nicer for us to know he's there, living in peace, without the story explicitly going HAY YOU REMEMBER THAT GRAVDIGGER? LOL THAT WAS SANDOR, CLEVER HUH?

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:05:13 No.454600207
Replies: >>454601625

>>454600106
The Hound is dead.

Sandor Clegane isn't.

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)09:05:35 No.454600250
Replies: >>454600459

>>454599924
I don't have a link but I did personally here George read one of them, and it's basically just Victarion Greyjoy preparing to invade Daenery's crib from the sea using the dragon horn. That's going to be one of the major battles next book and the first real test for Dany, imho.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:05:54 No.454600289
Replies: >>454601009

>>454599924
>leaked
its posted on GRRM's website and printed in the back of most of the newer versions of dance with dragons you tard

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:07:15 No.454600459
Replies: >>454600837 >>454601480

>>454600250
what? no, that happens in victarions final chapter in dance with dragons. the released chapter from winds of winter is theon tied to a wall, with stannis interrogating him.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:07:53 No.454600542

>>454600106
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...lete-analysis/

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Anonymous (ID: INle8I1l) 01/29/13(Tue)09:08:09 No.454600574

Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. "For the Lulz." He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it."

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Anonymous (ID: OfdFl04F) 01/29/13(Tue)09:08:21 No.454600603

>>454599924
http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:09:41 No.454600769

>>454599924
>Jon, Daenerys, Aegon are the 3 heads,
nope, its jon victarion and dany. Aegon will die, since his claim to the throne is stronger than dany's. see>>454590034

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)09:10:12 No.454600837
Replies: >>454601319

>>454600459
No, I went to a book reading and he read a new chapter with Victarion where his fleet is basically outside the port nearest to Dany (can't remember location names, sorry) - nothing major happened but it did make it clear that they're gonna meet and possibly clash in the next book.

That's probably why he chose to read that chapter, because it doesn't really give any meaty information.

Was amazing to hear George read his own story though, it was like listening to your Grandad tell a bedtime story :3

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:11:38 No.454601009

>>454600289
you I should have wrote "leaked", or delivered. Go suck your cock tard, don't play with the words here.

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Anonymous (ID: 4cVHxMcX) 01/29/13(Tue)09:13:17 No.454601219

Sansa is the "younger, more beauitful queen" in the prophecy to overthrow Cersei."

And after Littlefinger gets all pervy on her, she'll kill him off, too. That woodswitch said that a titan would would be cast down from a mountain (Littlefinger's sigil is the Titan of Braavos).

Tysha was seen in A Feast for rows, the whore who only beds those who marry her.

The ending will be Bran waking up, and thinking to himself, "For the love of fuck, I'm not gonna climb that tower." He'll tell Jon that he is actually the child of L and R (although, isn't he STILL a bastard?) Okay, this one is a joke.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)09:14:03 No.454601307

>>454598575
I already provided the passage above.

He states in Chapter 31, FOC, that he covered the corpse with rocks to keep the carrion birds at bay.

Also, the healer says matter-of-factly that Sandor was beyond the healing of any, due to the infection, that he died quite soon after begging for a mercy killing.

You're just wishing is all. The man is quite dead. You're just like the other people I've talked with who think Ned Stark is still alive -- wishful fucking thinking. GRRM is not that cheap of a writer.

>>implying that the gravedigger might not be another notably large man.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:14:16 No.454601319

There are two chapters out from the next book, one involving Victarion im sure. I think >>454600837 is correct, because in the last Victarion is going to Dany, but is not in the bay.

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Anonymous (ID: 4cVHxMcX) 01/29/13(Tue)09:15:37 No.454601480

>>454600459

The final Chapter with Victarion in Dance was when he started listening to the Red Priest and was told about how the horn will help him bind dragons/

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)09:17:00 No.454601625

>>454600207
Sandor Clegane is quite dead, Elder Brother already confirmed it in strict words relating to the words ''dead'', ''flesh'', ''beyond my powers of healing'' (relating to the infection).

>>454598851
Yes, I would agree that he is Robert Strong --- but Robert Strong is just an animated corpse. Not living. Are >you< that slow? Fucking kids these days...

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)09:21:07 No.454602082
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>>454598769
>>herpa derpa nothing (fucking cancer)
>> wishful thinking.

''KEEP THE CARRION EATERS FROM DIGGING UP HIS FLESH''

And to whom would that flesh belong?
Wishful fucking thinking -- it is exactly what GRRM wants you to do. It's his calling card. You've never read his other stuff, have you?

>>MFW you're little theory will be shattered in the next book because you don't understand what the author loves to do to his readers.

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Anonymous (ID: qcIBhG1r) 01/29/13(Tue)09:24:07 No.454602406

>>454596901

Ned got married, impregnated Cat and went to war. While he was gone Cat gave birth, and Ned came back with Jon.
If Jon was Neds son, Robb would be at least slightly older, but since hes probably Lyannas son, he could possibly range from slightly older to slightly younger

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:27:26 No.454602746

Anyway.

Does anyone fucking know where whores go ?

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:30:06 No.454603024
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>>454602746
Essos.

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:31:28 No.454603168

>>454603024
Maybe, I think it's the key to the whole story. I heard that some of them goes to thepiratebay though http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/73634...es_aka_Porn_Ac

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:31:51 No.454603214

>>454601219
its far more likely that the whore in bravos was gerion lannisters wife, not tysha,

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)09:31:58 No.454603221
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So I got a couple of scoops from talking to some of the actors this weekend.

First off, Rory McCann (The Hound) underwent about three weeks of practice for a massive combat scene and basically says it's his favorite scene so far.

Second off, episode 9 is the Red wedding. And is very likely to be where Rory's scene happens.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:32:47 No.454603315
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>>454601307
>implying people never lie or mislead one-another in asoiaf
you're actually blind if you don't see it. its painfully obvious

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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:34:06 No.454603471
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>>454603221
You don't have to be a genius to guess that season 3 will end at the red wedding, either just before of after Robb/Cath death. It's the cliffhanger of the book if they want to cut it in 2 season

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:34:16 No.454603495

>>454602406
except that its stated MULTIPLE TIMES in book one that robb is older than jon.

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Anonymous (ID: 6CUA3waI) 01/29/13(Tue)09:36:06 No.454603696

>>454603315
You're a dumbfuck for trying to find it.
This is something GRRM has done before in his other works.
Just sit back and see. GRRM is not a very talented writer when it comes to words, but he isn't a cheap writer either.

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Anonymous (ID: 1xE+mnST) 01/29/13(Tue)09:36:07 No.454603701
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>>454603471
It's a ten episode season. Episode nine is the Red Wedding. Episode ten is more like a teaser/lead on into series four.

It was always suspected but it was actually confirmed (albeit unofficially, so you'll have to take my word for it as I don't want to get said actor into trouble).

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Anonymous (ID: PBWQusrb) 01/29/13(Tue)09:38:03 No.454603928

>>454603701

Episode 9 has always been the "shit goes down" episode. Season 1 was Ned. Season 2 was Stannis's invasion.

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Anonymous (ID: DFMNBW9a) 01/29/13(Tue)09:39:06 No.454604045

>>454603701
my guess is episode 10 will be the reveal that arya isnt actually dead, her leaving sandor to die in the woods. and the episode will end with her giving the coin to the bravoosi ship captain, and then the final scene in the season will be dondarrion finding catelyns corpse.

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Anonymous (ID: NR+ZJYTN) 01/29/13(Tue)09:40:23 No.454604195
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Anonymous (ID: Gc4ouE88) 01/29/13(Tue)09:41:56 No.454604353

>>454603701
Well, it will end at the red wedding its 100% certain, they can't cut it another way. With what you said, I could guess robb and cat death will be in season 3, if its the case, they just can't end the season with that scene, because they will lose a lot of watcher. So a 10th episode to introduce the next events is a good choice. They either end before the death scene, or slightly after, but not on it.
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