Resists, Null's custom versus Classic.

[SearyxTZ]

I can't wait.

[tokso]

so if classic resist system is implemented, as an enchanter should I just gate after doing a couple dispels?

[SearyxTZ]

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tashanian (-39 MR)

Most non-warrior classes running around w/ 80-120 MR unbuffed in resist gear == you can still land stuff

Mythd killed me on TZ using rapture-nuke-rapture-nuke-rapture-nuke. No root required. Rapture being the unresistable mez spell you get at 59. Think there's one in the low 50's too.

You also have charm spells.

[Vayder]

I still can't fathom that classic resists worked the way you folks have described. Not saying they didn't cause I wasn't playing pvp then but using the explanation and Lucy data the following would be true:

Immune to Ice Comet at 117cr
Immune to Lava Bolt at 107fr
Immune to Venom of the Snake at 96pr
Immune to Anarchy at 71mr

Was that classic? If not, then your appeal to Lucy is wrong.

[gloinz]

can confirm cleric/enchanter nukes never landed not sure bout all that other stuff

[SearyxTZ]

Originally Posted by Vayder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still can't fathom that classic resists worked the way you folks have described. Not saying they didn't cause I wasn't playing pvp then but using the explanation and Lucy data the following would be true:

Immune to Ice Comet at 117cr
Immune to Lava Bolt at 107fr
Immune to Venom of the Snake at 96pr
Immune to Anarchy at 71mr

Was that classic? If not, then your appeal to Lucy is wrong.

No. We are talking CC spells only. This does not apply to anything else.

Wizard and Druid nukes still hit me plenty on 120+ FR

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Vayder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still can't fathom that classic resists worked the way you folks have described. Not saying they didn't cause I wasn't playing pvp then but using the explanation and Lucy data the following would be true:

Immune to Ice Comet at 117cr
Immune to Lava Bolt at 107fr
Immune to Venom of the Snake at 96pr
Immune to Anarchy at 71mr

Was that classic? If not, then your appeal to Lucy is wrong.

Unsure of where people started citing lucy for resist % rate, but just looking at this anyone who played classic knows this is hillariously wrong. 107/117 did not ever make you immune to non stun linked nukes. Unless you were a bard rolling around with resist songs you would rarely ever full resist a nuke (unless it was an enchanter/cleric nuke above level 20, furor and chaotic feedback (as well as shock of lightning with its knockback) seemed to be included in the normal resist nuke resist code).

just a quick FYI, not reading whole thread need to go out and hit up the bars pals.

And to morons who believe enchanters are bad in pvp if they can't land nukes... I'm too busy to type out an adequate insult to capture your extreme stupidity.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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tashanian (-39 MR)

Most non-warrior classes running around w/ 80-120 MR unbuffed in resist gear == you can still land stuff

Mythd killed me on TZ using rapture-nuke-rapture-nuke-rapture-nuke. No root required. Rapture being the unresistable mez spell you get at 59. Think there's one in the low 50's too.

You also have charm spells.

Searyx you are from TZ. Mythd did not only mez and nuke, he would literally debuff you to the point of him being able to melee you to death. Tell me you remember this? These people claiming that with classic resists classes are effecitvely "gutted" is absolute down syndrome bull-shit. Classic resists allow actual pvp. Anyone saying different NEVER PLAYED CLASSIC - VELIOUS PVP. HELLO GYLEN GETTING OWNED BY AN ENCHANTER (before primal)....FUCKING RETARDS

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by bamzal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What can cancel magic do that pumice cant? Sucked on live anyway maybe its OP here who knows. Please prove me wrong with just 1 example.

Nope you are right. I thought cancel magic was a good use of a spell gem until I learned the wonders of pumice. Also if you are trying to pumice off druid dots dont do it in LOS of their nukes ;p (they will kill you before u can finish pumicing)