How do Barbarian Shamans and their toys hold up in Velious?

[ccs88]

The choice is obvious here, ogre.

My question has always been how to spend the 30 points @ creation, taking Cannibalize and Torpor into account? Everyone has a different answer it seems.

The shaman wiki page is lacking...

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

STA til it wont go up anymore then WIS. Thats my preference.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Nerosys [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is talking about red, obviously in pvp regen plays a different role compared to stun vs other RL pc's that's obvious and doesen't really need to be stated.

As i said regen means mostly nothing when you get torpor plus a fungi or vindi BP in velious which most forget aura of battle also gives regen.

First of all are you for real? Have u seen the number of players on Red? PVP action is almost non existent, it's 95% PVE there now. I've casted one spell (dot) on a player in the last 5 days there.

Secondly, how many people that make shamans take them all the way to level 60? I'm willing to be that number is 5% or less of everyone who rolls a shaman. I still stand by my decision that troll > ogre for the average player. Mainly because that person still gets to wear plate armor, gets natural regen, and even get the option to snare mobs.

When you reach level 60 on your shaman you get torpor but even then the innate regen is in effect and is a nice extra. If you are fighting mobs where you are having to rely on your frontal stun immunity to win a fight then you are fighting the wrong mobs...a troll can kill any mob an ogre can I can bet you money on that.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To reiterate the facts presented in this thread:

You're a fool if you choose Regen over frontal stun immunity. People in this thread are far too defensive of their poor race choice, it's sort of funny.

If you want to min max

Cleric - Dark Elf
Rogue - Dwarf/Barb
Sham - Ogre
Warrior - Ogre

Have you played both a troll and ogre here bro? I have. So I know. Regen > Stun Immunity. No need to fight mobs where u have to rely on not being stunned.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you played both a troll and ogre here bro? I have. So I know. Regen > Stun Immunity. No need to fight mobs where u have to rely on not being stunned.

Skorge all I'm saying is consider Velious farming - that's all. You will *never die to WW dragons if you're a good shaman, and an Ogre.

Given that 90% of P99 shamans probably have past EQ experience, regardless of your race you're probably all set.

Undoubtedly regen trumps stun immunity when you're playing support on Raids or Groups.

Also let's get real here - if i rolled an Ogre sham and twinked him to oblivion, Orruar, Svenn, Skorge, Jeremy, Baub etc are all 1000x better off than me still. Skill > all.

[SamwiseBanned]

skorge makes perfect sense. pvp or bluebie it doesnt matter, regen is ALWAYS on. lets say you could pick any race and pair it up with any racial, i am positive anyone with a brain would choose iksar/troll regen over ogre frontal immunity (not really immune)

edit: i am not saying Troll > ogre, im saying troll racial owns the ogres. ultimately play whatever race you want.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Skorge all I'm saying is consider Velious farming - that's all. You will *never die to WW dragons if you're a good shaman, and an Ogre.

Given that 90% of P99 shamans probably have past EQ experience, regardless of your race you're probably all set.

Undoubtedly regen trumps stun immunity when you're playing support on Raids or Groups.

Also let's get real here - if i rolled an Ogre sham and twinked him to oblivion, Orruar, Svenn, Skorge, Jeremy, Baub etc are all 1000x better off than me still. Skill > all.

Yea man u nailed it...so why not take regen, lol...either way both an ogre and troll can end up doing the same type of mobs equally geared, so why not go with extra regen cuz it pays off more in support and groups, raids, etc.