Solo Artist Challenge

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're one of those people who play Halo and complain about people using all the power weapons. If something is part of the game, use it.

I agree. Gratz on the kill guys. Very nice.

Asher

[Splorf22]

Well this is why I had the S- category because I do think using the strong clickies takes away from things a bit. I don't remember all of this item recharging in classic EQ; I played a mage and I don't think I ever had a WC cap for example. I certainly didn't carry around 10 woolly spider nets.

You can also criticize the shaman but the strings are almost as good for enchanters because anything over L55 can't be stunned or mezzed without rapture so instant recharm is exceedingly valuable. My guess is that everything on the GM list is doable for enchanters without puppet strings just by getting lucky with charm durations, and I'll have to give the cliff golem a shot some time without them (i got him without any string charges since charm didn't break), but realistically hasted pets + uber mobs blow through my HP so fast that without being able to stun/ae mez any breaks are going to be really painful.

I think ultimately the God tier mobs are just so hard (if I had to guess, I would say that Verant intended the area around Trak's lair to be a miniraid of 2-3 groups. I remember organizing Fire Giant raids in classic and I usually wanted at least 2 full groups) that any kills are going to have to rely on this semi-exploit type stuff.

Edit: I updated the order so that Neh'Ashiir is now the easiest God-tier mob.

[Fazlazen]

I can go farther than that. Puppet strings, bladestopper, soulfire should all be dissalowed. For example, Bladestopper allows you pulls you should not be able to do as a shaman. It also adds more than 3k hp to your total during a fight. Soulfire is 5 CHs.

Puppet strings is just the worse. You are a shaman who kills mobs like if he were an enchanter.

I stand by my reasoning: Those kills were not done by a shaman.

[Orruar]

Can a shaman do the soulfire quest?

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can a shaman do the soulfire quest?

yes, now go solo trakanon !

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bladestopper allows you pulls you should not be able to do as a shaman.

I know exactly what you're thinking of here, and I did Drusella with no puppet strings and no Bladestopper. Shamans get this awesome spell called Spirit of Wolf, which works just fine. Oh, I did use IVU pots to get to her, which I suppose you also must have a problem with.

I'm not sure what pulls Bladestopper is going to allow me to do that I couldn't do without. Tola's nukes are bigger than a Rune IV, so it would be unlikely to make a difference on that.

Since you are such a purist, I fully expect you to never use a sow potion (or else you become a shaman) or a WC cap (or else that makes you a druid).

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you are such a purist, I fully expect you to never use a sow potion (or else you become a shaman) or a WC cap (or else that makes you a druid).

Neither SoW nor the WC port cap have really anything to do with any class' ability to solo that list of mobs.

SoW - only beneficial to kiting classes, all of whom can SoW or better.

WC port cap - doesn't help you kill, only bail.

I don't see how disallowing Bladestopper (10 charges of 4k HP Rune), Puppet Strings (charm), and Soulfire (5 CHs) is whatsoever problematic.

All of these effects are "game breaking" in terms of the solo game.

[Splorf22]

I really don't see what the problem is Faz. If you want to be a purist, you can ignore anything S-. I'll edit the God-mode kills list to reflect this.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see what the problem is Faz. If you want to be a purist, you can ignore anything S-. I'll edit the God-mode kills list to reflect this.

His problem is that he's jealous and has to try and knock others down in an attempt to lift his own self esteem.

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see what the problem is Faz. If you want to be a purist, you can ignore anything S-. I'll edit the God-mode kills list to reflect this.

Shaman charming mobs to do those, although impressive, are not shaman kills. That duo of protector truely impressed me, especially since I've seen countless times 1 group and even 2 groups wipe to those, but they are not true duo kills. I can't give you that. Still impressive.

As for your comment Orruar, I play a SK nowadays, I have about 2900 hps. I could probably solo Neh'Ashir too. 2900 hps x5 (soulfire) + that CH stick from the thex mallet quest = 17 400 hps.

Now lets add a bladestopper. 10 x 394 hps = 3940 hps.

So I am now a Shadow knight, who started with 2900 hps, but in reality has 21 340 hps (exagerating because I probably wouldnt get the full benifit of all CH). Lets make it 20 000 hps. I'm now a raid target !

Why don't we go farther ? Let me add in a fully charged puppet strings, so that I can more than triple my DPS.

Legit solo kills ? To me, no, to you, maybe. You are as entitled to your opinion as I am, no need to get on your high horse because I question the validity of your so called Oracle kills !