A history of (the lack of) VP - Page 13

Fists · #**121** 10-11-2011, 06:39 PM

shutup jj you smelly sexy stallion

citizen1080 · #**122** 10-11-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Management set this up to end like this.

Basically, they police the raid guilds like children. Solving every dispute instead of leaving everything up to us to settle. That ends up getting tiring for them and they don't always enforce every petition or even reply. Then you get things where one guild snipes pulls and they only get the loot taken away and "please don't do that again". Which leads them to the thought "well if nothing bad happens, let's just see what we can get away with"

Now you have the end game raid scene. Where the "Balls" of the server (Uthgaard) has quit and we are left with guides and Rogean. If there was ever a time to pull shady shit, it would be now. Yet, for the most part, we have been governing each other better than before.

If they had let the rules be done away with and let us completely just crap all over each other, sooner or later we would have all come to an agreement. Yet, we will continue to keep this Mother/Children setup and we will continue to "taddle" every thing to mommy dearest, that is how they want it.

This is pretty much what I said in my perfect world post.

Fists · #**123** 10-11-2011, 06:48 PM

CONGRATS ON PLANAR PROTECTOR BOBBY

citizen1080 · #**124** 10-11-2011, 07:10 PM

<3

It has been a long road...one filled with many useless thread updates. But we have arrived!

Loke · #**125** 10-11-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Management set this up to end like this.

Basically, they police the raid guilds like children. Solving every dispute instead of leaving everything up to us to settle. That ends up getting tiring for them and they don't always enforce every petition or even reply. Then you get things where one guild snipes pulls and they only get the loot taken away and "please don't do that again". Which leads them to the thought "well if nothing bad happens, let's just see what we can get away with"

Now you have the end game raid scene. Where the "Balls" of the server (Uthgaard) has quit and we are left with guides and Rogean. If there was ever a time to pull shady shit, it would be now. Yet, for the most part, we have been governing each other better than before.

If they had let the rules be done away with and let us completely just crap all over each other, sooner or later we would have all come to an agreement. Yet, we will continue to keep this Mother/Children setup and we will continue to "taddle" every thing to mommy dearest, that is how they want it.

Didn't we have we have a discussion in /tells a month or two ago about this exact subject? Either way, I agree...

Autotune · #**126** 10-11-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is pretty much what I said in my perfect world post.

Hmm. I think i'm going to start looking thru your posts then and just copy paste. Would probably help keep me from seeing a ban-hammer when posting outside of RnF.

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Didn't we have we have a discussion in /tells a month or two ago about this exact subject? Either way, I agree...

Yeah we did.

Aadill · #**127** 10-11-2011, 07:21 PM

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CONGRATS ON PLANAR PROTECTOR BOBBY

crap i'm lagging behind

EDIT: 40% posting penalty.

citizen1080 · #**128** 10-11-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm. I think i'm going to start looking thru your posts then and just copy paste. Would probably help keep me from seeing a ban-hammer when posting outside of RnF.

Yeah we did.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...=perfect+world

=D

fishingme · #**129** 10-11-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Management set this up to end like this.

Basically, they police the raid guilds like children. Solving every dispute instead of leaving everything up to us to settle. That ends up getting tiring for them and they don't always enforce every petition or even reply. Then you get things where one guild snipes pulls and they only get the loot taken away and "please don't do that again". Which leads them to the thought "well if nothing bad happens, let's just see what we can get away with"

Now you have the end game raid scene. Where the "Balls" of the server (Uthgaard) has quit and we are left with guides and Rogean. If there was ever a time to pull shady shit, it would be now. Yet, for the most part, we have been governing each other better than before.

If they had let the rules be done away with and let us completely just crap all over each other, sooner or later we would have all come to an agreement. Yet, we will continue to keep this Mother/Children setup and we will continue to "taddle" every thing to mommy dearest, that is how they want it.

Then why are you trying to say what I originally thought was wrong? Or did I just not give enough information to you?

mostbitter · #**130** 10-11-2011, 07:39 PM

That's exactly the way it was on TZ/VZ. You know how much self policing was done? None. The end result was that servers death. No GM involvement just means that the guild with more free time will win. People who are going to win those fights are just going to push people off the server until they get bored and leave the server with no one to play on it.