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[atomicpaul]

also, my wife recently replaced our realtor with chatgpt and got a better deal... plus we didn't have to pay some agent like 12,000 while closing on our new house. i do not feel guilty if ai wipes out most realtors, they're glorified document managers.

i am not financially literate enough to know if i got screwed, but i don't intend to keep the mortgage for the full 30 year spread anyways.

[shovelquest]

That's fantastic dude!!!! Congrats!

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm ambivalent on ai. i do think it's overhyped crap like most of the silicon valley stuff, like NFTs and many cryptocurrencies. but i have also used it a little at work when i can't get what i want by using vLookup, when searching for discrepancies between two given lists.

i don't think it's the end of civilization, but i also don't think it will solve as many problems as the silicon valley types say. i do think it will result in more and more unemployment as time goes on, but that seems to serve the goals of the billionaires, given the authoritarian shift of the last handful of years.

I think it will have the same kind of impact the internet had.

A lot of wasted potential, a lot of wasted energy, and a lot of annoying scams.

Makes me wonder, if after 30 years we wont replace jobs the same way we didn't replace the post office or the DMV with email and a website.

[atomicpaul]

yeah, i keep thinking of back when photoshop first came out. i bet a lot of graphic designers who were used to using physical stuff might have been worried this would put them out of work. maybe it did, to some extent, or it just overtook whatever other software was around at the time. i do remember paint shop pro in the 90's. but they generally persisted.

plus, there's totally still people out there using paint and brushes. it's fine. a lot of art is already corporate, but the canned nature of it leaves room for actual creativity being distinct. hand-made still has traction in a lot of circles.

[atomicpaul]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's fantastic dude!!!! Congrats!

thanks, i have owned a house before but never a new house. and i get to move even further away from the city, out in the woods. but now i get to find out just how much i struggle with the concept of a HOA... being a collectivism supporter but also a nimby disliker, it might be a real pickle in the years to come.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, i keep thinking of back when photoshop first came out. i bet a lot of graphic designers who were used to using physical stuff might have been worried this would put them out of work. maybe it did, to some extent, or it just overtook whatever other software was around at the time. i do remember paint shop pro in the 90's. but they generally persisted.

I wish I had cameras back then, there really were "real human artist" signs on all the comic book artist tables at the comic conventions around then.

I was a big time comic nerd back then.

They hated photoshop. Especially the computer. All artists hated the computer. The computer back then was for spreadsheets and bankers. Not anyone who had any creativeness to them. They talked about it exactly the same way the artists today talk about AI.

They thought it was just going to ruin art as humanity knew it.

Artists back then were like, hippies and punks and painters. Not a single one of them liked computers.

Except for the kids. Who grew up with them, and are doing the exact same pattern again with AI.

As we will until the end of time (which hopefully is now-sh cus i hate this god damn planet).

plus, there's totally still people out there using paint and brushes. it's fine. a lot of art is already corporate, but the canned nature of it leaves room for actual creativity being distinct. hand-made still has traction in a lot of circles.

Yeah, Broadway plays still make shitloads of $$$

Often from the same people that go watch blockbuster movies.

And we still teach theater in schools instead of film making.

Its honestly really sad for me to see artists and creative minded people, behave like puritanical religious freaks that fear technology.

It reminds me of the Jurrasic Park movie.

When the guy was doing the practical effects said "I am extinct" when he saw the computer graphics.

Like, should we have not done computer graphics?

That guy is STILL making movie special effects to day by the way... sometimes practical, sometimes computer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetail...ys_looks_like/

[shovelquest]

I think people should remember, if you enter into a field based around technology.

You have to accept that the tools and process you're using now—replaced tools and processes that existed before you started.

And that means: There are going to be tools and processes that replace the way you do it now.

So if you pick a "cutting edge" career, accept that what you're doing will be "old and shitty" in 20 years.

[atomicpaul]

phil tippet kicks ass, mad god kicked ass. real stuff just shifts to become more... boutique.

i remember a doonesbury strip from the 90's where somebody was raging on techno music for being soulless. clearly whoever wrote doonesbury had not heard of Shpongle or Infected Mushroom, actual creative electronica music.

and i could totally play the blue bell homemade ice cream jingle on acoustic guitar or whatever.. it's still soulless. but it is good ice cream.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

phil tippet kicks ass, mad god kicked ass. real stuff just shifts to become more... boutique.

i remember a doonesbury strip from the 90's where somebody was raging on techno music for being soulless. clearly whoever wrote doonesbury had not heard of Shpongle or Infected Mushroom, actual creative electronica music.

and i could totally play the blue bell homemade ice cream jingle on acoustic guitar or whatever.. it's still soulless. but it is good ice cream.

If there is 1 thing I learned from melinials it's that I am wrong: The phantom menace is a good movie.

The lesson though is: even though it IS objectively a BAD movie. The younger generation will called you OLD and STUPID for not getting it. And they will both outnumber your generation in fanatical worship of something, and also never ever be wrong.

[Ekco]

phantom menace is not a good movie

neither is return, the idea of teddy bears taking on the empire and AT-STs and winning is fucking preposterous.

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