Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I forgot to mention the mage's keyboard is broken and he's playing with a guitar hero controller on a 56k dial up internet connection and his mom keeps picking up the phone and disconnecting him

You mad, bro?

[Danth]

Funny part is a magician probably could play somewhat effectively given similarly awful conditions, minus the disconnects. One of the big strengths of that class is that it's a simple character to operate competently. You could put a 6 year old child on a magician and within a week he'd play it at least at an average level.

Notably I see Shamwowi conspicuously NOT arguing with my own comments that I like #3 enchanter or necromancer better for that particular 4-man group....only that he likes shaman better than magician for it. I hope it stays that way because I don't want to be on my PC 'till 2 AM [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Danth

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny part is a magician probably could play somewhat effectively given similarly awful conditions, minus the disconnects. One of the big strengths of that class is that it's a simple character to operate competently. You could put a 6 year old child on a magician and within a week he'd play it at least at an average level.

Notably I see Shamwowi conspicuously NOT arguing with my own comments that I like #3 enchanter or necromancer better for that particular 4-man group....only that he likes shaman better than magician for it. I hope it stays that way because I don't want to be on my PC 'till 2 AM [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Danth

Lol from a raw DPS perspective obviously 3x Enchanters and a Cleric would be superior. However, I have never really seen this group setup, so my fear is it would start to get really risky with multiple Charm breaks. I think I discussed it earlier in the thread. I would love to see a long, multiple hour stream of this setup in a hard area, to see how often problems occur and how well the group can recover.

If it's too risky, I would prefer Shaman/Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric still. Consistency is often times better than high risk, since the average is what you care about if you are going to be farming or leveling for a decent period of time.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol from a raw DPS perspective obviously 3x Enchanters and a Cleric would be superior. However, I have never really seen this group setup, so my fear is it would start to get really risky with multiple Charm breaks. I think I discussed it earlier in the thread. I would love to see a long, multiple hour stream of this setup in a hard area, to see how often problems occur and how well the group can recover.

If it's too risky, I would prefer Shaman/Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric still. Consistency is often times better than high risk, since the average is what you care about if you are going to be farming or leveling for a decent period of time.

I'm leery of triple-charm as well, hence adding in necromancer. Gives you a very nice spectre pet, feign-rez, access to feign/harmshield-pulling if needed, a decent heal output, a good snare, and still has undead charm in many areas if desired. Magician in particular falls flat on its face against that option, Malo is nice but not THAT nice just on its own. Shaman holds up better but most of its best utility is slightly redundant. It's alright but in this specific case I think the more unique abilities are preferred.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mad, bro?

Also, do you remember this comment?

I rest my case.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, do you remember this comment?

I rest my case.

I do remember it. You failed to post the comment you made that I responded to. Context matters. I am allowed to defend myself from your trolling attempts. It is sad you won't even bother posting your own quote so other people can see what I was replying to.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am allowed to defend myself from your trolling attempts.

I am allowed to continue to continue attempting to have a civil discussion whilst defending myself from your (false & unsubstantiated) repeated accusations of me trolling.

I have admitted to zero trolling. Quite the contrary! In irrefutable fact - which you cannot refute - I have challenged you calling me a troll and have asked you to provide proof/evidence of my "trolling". You have not provided - and seemingly cannot provide - any evidence that supports your claim, hence your claim is unsubstantiated - and false.

Your post would seem to indicate that you believe that others "want to shut you up"? Oh quite the contrary! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I have been attempting to continue having a civil discussion with you, but you have repeatedly ignored my posts and dodged my questions hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hundreds of insult/meme posts don't help your case either.

I have not insulted or attacked you, I have posted zero memes. Please provide evidence to support your claim that I have engaged in any such activity on this (or any other) thread, else your claim is both unsubstantiated and false.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can provide evidence for your claims or admit defeat at any time.

I submit this entire thread and both of our entire post histories as evidence. You have not provided - and seemingly cannot provide - any counter-evidence.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is sad you think you can win an argument with just insults/memes/trolling, and no evidence.

Your post would seem to imply that you believe that we are arguing. This is intended to be a civil discussion - not an argument.

Again, you bring up accusations of insults/memes/trolling, but you have provided no evidence of me doing any such activities. I present this thread and both of our post histories as evidence, and you have not provided - and seemingly cannot provide - any counter-evidence.

If you are capable of engaging in civil discussion to back up your points with data that is relevant to the discussion, you may choose to start replying and doing so (rather than calling me a troll) at any time hehe. It really isn't hard. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the event that this post is ignored, I submit it as further evidence that DSM has ignored my posts hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do remember it. You failed to post the comment you made that I responded to. Context matters. I am allowed to defend myself from your trolling attempts. It is sad you won't even bother posting your own quote so other people can see what I was replying to.

Then get the context...

It won't make you look any better.

[Zuranthium]

Lots of mobs in Sebilis summon, you have no clue what you're talking about. It's not viable to keep 4 things full-duration disease/epic DoTed anyway in most groups, you will be moving together through different areas or pulling groups of things that die too quickly for the DoT's to have that impact. You can fully DoT up the last MOB in a pull before the group gets to it, but probably not more than that.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know how groups work. You don't. If you knew how groups worked you could do different tactics if you wanted.

You're a clown. There is absolutely nothing you understand about the game better, and by your own admission you play the game less efficiently and productively. You would lose every time if we actually had a contest among the people you try to talk at on the forum, about who could get to 60 fastest in an equal amount of playtime.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lots of mobs in Sebilis summon, you have no clue what you're talking about. It's not viable to keep 4 things full-duration disease/epic DoTed anyway in most groups, you will be moving together through different areas or pulling groups of things that die too quickly for the DoT's to have that impact. You can fully DoT up the last MOB in a pull before the group gets to it, but probably not more than that.



You're a clown. There is absolutely nothing you understand about the game better, and by your own admission you play the game less efficiently and productively. You would lose every time if we actually had a contest among the people you try to talk at on the forum, about who could get to 60 fastest in an equal amount of playtime.

I didn't say mobs don't summon in Sebilis lol. You don't read. I said a lot of mobs don't summon, which is true. Do you know what you are talking about?

You just post to try and be counter to what I say, regardless of how wrong you actually are[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still have yet to provide even one shred of evidence for any of your claims. But it's easy to just bullshit when you don't think evidence matters.

I love how you think everybody on P99 is trying to level to 60 in the fastest amount of time. It really shows how biased you are towards your specific view of how you think the game is played (or should be played).