I don't care what political, cultural. or social values u hold

[Gwaihir]

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[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way in which this scenario could be applied if in some outlandishly contrived situation that goes against the constraints of practicality.

Lol

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Utilitarianism is a stupid philosophy. Fuck the greater good. If you don't want to die from Covid then don't be fat. Simple as. Why should I give a fuck about your health when you don't give a fuck about your own health?

I love the lens of trolley problem and you have solved them all.

[Gwaihir]

Quick question, is the thug in the ghetto that will rob and shoot you because your car looks a little too nice a utilitarian, or deontological? Mind you, there's nothing objectively wrong about killing you over looking at him funny. It's just relative, since evil is a matter of perspective.

If we outlaw guns, and he physically bests you with a knife or a rock, does that make it right?

Utilitarianism is not a philosophy, philosophies have a far more universalist application. Utilitarianism is a strawman philosophy adopted by pussies unwilling to stand for anything. Pussies who are setting themselves up to be fucked by stronger men

[blindedsoul]

Just a thought process here, do you think that we are living real life call of duty? O.o

You have to realize without p o l ice or govt to protect your property people can just wait outside your door at a blind spot kill you and take it... or when you sleep...

Are you planning on setting up shifts with people to guard your hoard of food? seems like a lot to live out some anti govt conspiracy fantasy.

What would be your thought process here? There are 4 guns on average for every American so don't think you got a big heads up on everyone if armed.

How would your anarchist state work? I would prefer not to have to mad max it on a whim lol

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just a thought process here, do you think that we are living real life call of duty? O.o

You have to realize without p o l ice or govt to protect your property people can just wait outside your door at a blind spot kill you and take it... or when you sleep...

Are you planning on setting up shifts with people to guard your hoard of food? seems like a lot to live out some anti govt conspiracy fantasy.

What would be your thought process here? There are 4 guns on average for every American so don't think you got a big heads up on everyone if armed.

How would your anarchist state work? I would prefer not to have to mad max it on a whim lol

Careful. You're treading dangerously close to confirming people are not inherently good. You can kicked out of your leftist utopia for thinking something like that

[blindedsoul]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Careful. You're treading dangerously close to confirming people are not inherently good. You can kicked out of your leftist utopia for thinking something like that

Mate I know that people are not inherently good without a govt/ Police force the corporations will kill their employee's for profit left unregulated, the people would kill each other for short term gains. There is historical representation of this at every stage of humanity.

There would be no safe place in the US if we implimented anything like this just wondering how he can explain the usual anti govt anarchist stuff.... I grew out of it the anarchist idealism when I was 14 after some practical research and realizing I dont want to live in constant additional fear of death just for going outside lol

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mate I know that people are not inherently good without a govt/ Police force the corporations will kill their employee's for profit left unregulated, the people would kill each other for short term gains. There is historical representation of this at every stage of humanity.

There would be no safe place in the US if we implimented anything like this just wondering how he can explain the usual anti govt anarchist stuff.... I grew out of it the anarchist idealism when I was 14 after some practical research and realizing I dont want to live in constant additional fear of death just for going outside lol

Then if you conceed that people are not inherently good, Utilitarianism has no place claiming itself a "philosophy". You either stand for something or you don't.

[blindedsoul]

@ Gwaihir
Saying corporations will kill people for profit without govt regulations is philosophically valid and falls under the nature of knowledge reality and existence

Corporations are groups of people by in extension also validates the prior

Dude you just talked yourself into a circle thinking you made a profound point while trying to moot mine. Either disprove me or concur but stop with the petty antics that are against the word definitions that we are supposed to be using/ agreed on mutually.

Philosophy standard def: the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mate I know that people are not inherently good without a govt/ Police force the corporations will kill their employee's for profit left unregulated,

. They already do, hello Pfizer and Moderna
[/Quote] the people would kill each other for short term gains. [/Quote]
They already do. Sometimes they kill each other for what can only be quantifiably defined as "nothing"
There is historical representation of this at every stage of humanity.

There would be no safe place in the US if we implimented anything like this just wondering how he can explain the usual anti govt anarchist stuff.... I grew out of it the anarchist idealism when I was 14 after some practical research and realizing I dont want to live in constant additional fear of death just for going outside lol[/QUOTE]