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Old 03-26-2020, 03:13 PM
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Please unroot the dragons and bring back FTE lockouts next!
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Old 03-26-2020, 05:23 PM
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Please unroot the dragons and bring back FTE lockouts next!
And also, bring warders back
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:41 PM
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And also, bring warders back
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:40 PM
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Would love to see some exp modifier for ToFS / Crystal Cavers / Kaesora / Dalnir......those are dead zones that could use some serious exp love.
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Old 03-27-2020, 11:20 AM
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Wow. A much needed and long overdue change. Stuff like splitpaw is so much more difficult than unrest/highkeep with half the xp.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:44 PM
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The wiki ZEM pages should just be completely removed, they cause way way too much confusion. Their entire basis is a guess, and given that "I don't know where the values on the wiki come from, and we do not reference those" maybe it's time for them to just go.
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:08 PM
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The wiki ZEM pages should just be completely removed, they cause way way too much confusion. Their entire basis is a guess, and given that "I don't know where the values on the wiki come from, and we do not reference those" maybe it's time for them to just go.
I think that's likely throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

We know the wiki is based on 2003 numbers (thanks Dolalin), and we also know that they're off mainly because Verant changed ZEMs in 2002 (https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...8&postcount=30).

But Verant would have had to have massively changed the numbers for them to be worthless here. Even if they changed every zone an average of 10% ZEM ... I'd still rather have a number in the wiki that's on average within 10% deviation of the right number, than have no numbers whatsoever.

With no numbers, the number you have to use is a guess, and that guess will likely be for 100% ZEM. So in short, while no one knows exactly how wrong the wiki numbers are, as long as they are closer to the real numbers than they are to 100% (ie. the number you'd guess), they're more useful existing than not.

What I think the real solution would be is for people to start collecting data (good, consistent data, like kiling a mob of the same level in the same zone over and over). The more data points people submit, and the more stats nerds get involved in analyzing them, the sooner we can start finding P99-accurate (or at least closer to accurate) numbers.
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:57 AM
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really sorry if this has been answered but i was skimming through the post for certain verbiage and may have missed it ... do these new ZEMs apply to blue server as well? thanks for your time folks.
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:22 AM
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You'll notice that there's zones that aren't on green yet listed, and generally every update unless specified will be across blue/green/red.
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:45 AM
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You'll notice that there's zones that aren't on green yet listed, and generally every update unless specified will be across blue/green/red.
Roger, thanks for the update and apologies for the DD fail.
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