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01-28-2020, 06:07 PM
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01-31-2020, 09:36 PM
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"He [Solemn] is being slandered" "You're a literal retard just like the majority of your guild"-Solemn Got it... | |||
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#3
01-28-2020, 08:51 PM
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I think it was Venerate who decided to take out this one instance with Solmn out on all of us.
Personally, I dont care and I'll do the same. No point in fussing about it any further. If that's how you all feel, fine and we're done with it. | ||
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#6
01-31-2020, 05:15 PM
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OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.
Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll. Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt. In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you? Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game. Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate. Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go. Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses. Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG. Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell... Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right! Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy! | ||
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#8
01-31-2020, 07:03 PM
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I just read through all the screenshots. Here’s my take on it....
Zubas came because he wanted to “camp bracer.” That doesn’t automatically mean he’s entitled to it. However, in none of the screenshots do I see the party agree on NBG. It’s only referenced in the shot after Solemn was kicked from the group. I’ll presume it was discussed though, because Solemn states “NBG is literally GBN.” This implies he knew beforehand that NBG was told to the group. This creates a problem for Solemn, because it’s understood what NBG means, and that is that a player “needs” who can actually USE the item (as in wear, as opposed to simply “needing” the money from the item). I understand where he’s coming from since I too agree that any party member who’s present and involved in the kill should have a right to roll on an item that drops (regardless whether they can wear it or not). That being said, if it WAS discussed prior that it was NBG, Solemn joined the group with the knowledge that it was NBG. Regardless of what his personal feelings are about NBG, he can’t arbitrarily decide to “ignore” that guidance and insert his own definition when it’s convenient for him. Despite whatever is believed to be fair, knowing the group rules beforehand and deciding to stay constructively means that you’ve chosen to abide by them. All that being said, I think as a practical matter it was presumptuous of Zubas to join the group believing he was ‘entitled’ to the bracer. Absent even a roll, it’s clear he assumes he’ll get it if one drops. Now whats not shown in the screenshots is the roll itself, but I can assume Solemn rolled on the item and subsequently won the roll, which is why he looted. Not necessarily a ninja loot if he won the roll, but also not in keeping with the rules of the group set forth beforehand. Note, though, the party as a whole should agree on the loot rules. Simply because you’re the group leader doesn’t mean you get to unilaterally make the loot rules, especially when that rule only favors one person who you have a connection to (guildmate). Loot rules need to be firmly entrenched. If Solemn made no objection to the NBG rules though when they were told to him, then that’s a tacit consent. TLDR: NBG is an inherently unfair system to group members that participate being denied the chance at loot, which IS useful monetarily even if they can’t use the items themselves. That being said, if NBG was discussed prior to an item dropping and was understood to be the rule of the group, party members need to abide by it (especially if they choose to remain in the group after learning about the rule, and as long as it’s discussed PRIOR to an item dropping). Solemn choosing to remain in the group after the rule was discussed, and presumably not objecting to it (as he chose to remain in the group), means NBG is established and he’s in the wrong for looting the item. The roll is inconsequential in this regard. | ||
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#9
01-31-2020, 07:40 PM
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Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...
Let me clarify a few matters of contention: #1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it. #2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG. #3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat... #4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed. #5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked. #6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through. | ||
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#10
01-31-2020, 07:47 PM
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Who the fuck keeps 1000 silver when they're overweight?
I knew there was something seriously wrong with you right from the beginning. | ||
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