Name & Shame - Pamila - Seal Team - Green

[valenwood]

I think instead of coming up with conjecture, we should look at the facts.

Let's start with a simple question:

What sort of misconduct has Pamila actually committed?

From the Play Nice Policy https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=325349

4. You may not Ninja Loot.
Ninja looting defined is when a player, disregarding the players or player who killed a mob, loots an item that is generally regarded as significant or valuable from the mob they did not kill.

I see nothing that says that Pamila did not aid in killing the mob - actually all evidence says that Pamila did help kill the mob.

From the Play Nice Policy https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=325349

11. You may not defraud other players.

Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense.

I don't see any evidence of Pamila promising the OP anything.

Player agreements and rolling https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=256

If everyone else is rolling and you decide that it doesn't apply to you, you're gonna have a bad time.

I see no evidence from OP stating that the group agreed to rolling for any loot.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by valenwood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think ... we should look at the facts.

How about the fact that he's a greedy, socially inept POS?

[khaybrother86]

If no loot rules are specified before an item drops, than all parties need to come to an agreement on how loot is to be handled after a drop. This did not happen.

Rules lawyering is what makes p99 the worst. By server rules, a mob that has several PH spots is not a camp but FTE. But if you move in on said camp after someone else has spent hours trying to spawn the named, you are not breaking server rules, but you are in fact a dick. Not the situation here, but using as an example of how "playing by the rules" doesn't mean you are not an asshole.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd also add that given the hours this most likely occurred pamila might not even be a native english speaker.

Are you just another Seal Team shitter trying to cover up for you and your guildmates' lack of human decency?

Your excuses for him are garbage. A language issue? We can see in the screenshots his reasoning just fine. There is no communication problem here. Just a problem of stupidity and greed. He literally says he doesn't want to roll because he doesn't want to take the chance that he loses the dice roll.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you just another Seal Team shitter trying to cover up for you and your guildmates' lack of human decency?

Your excuses for him are garbage. A language issue? We can see in the screenshots his reasoning just fine. There is no communication problem here. Just a problem of stupidity and greed. He literally says he doesn't want to roll because he doesn't want to take the chance that he loses the dice roll.

I'm not covering for anyone. Consider me Atticus. What exactly happened is still up to debate. What is not, however, is the OP's repeated lies/misrepresentation regarding this event.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not how it works. if you join someone else's camp or group. it's your job to make sure you are cool with the loot rules. And is he a raging asshole? it's possible but ive seen no proof. I'd also add that given the hours this most likely occurred pamila might not even be a native english speaker. That can cause issues as well.

Are you saying that the screenshots are lies? That Pamila didn't say what the screenshots show him saying? Because I plainly see Pamila being a greedy, selfish POS who is way too obsessed with pixels in an emulator of a 21-year-old MMORPG. I'm not on Green but I see this commonly in my experiences with Kingdom members.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by khaybrother86 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude has said multiple times that he helped break camp. So all the nonsense you spitting is moot.

Just sit the fek down and chill. Maybe drink less coffee, or do less meth, or whatever the hell it is that is making you such a twat.

And why are we trusting the word of a known liar?

[DMN]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying that the screenshots are lies? That Pamila didn't say what the screenshots show him saying? Because I plainly see Pamila being a greedy, selfish POS who is way too obsessed with pixels in an emulator of a 21-year-old MMORPG. I'm not on Green but I see this commonly in my experiences with Kingdom members.

i can't even read half the shit on those garbage screenshots. But i do know that instead of posting the whole log of conversation, only bits and pieces were selectively chosen. Why?

[Anxarcule]

Not sure how you claim Mignart is lying - you can chalk up the ladder/spawn thing to rarity (not sure how often this happens myself) and the not caring about TBB being a figure of speech/secondary item to the fact that he wants to call out an asshole being an asshole.

You're in your right to disagree and try and poke holes but calling him a liar is a bit much IMO. But you're entitled to your opinion, though I don't know why you are so vociferous about everything - it's only a game and this isn't affecting you directly so why not look on the bright side of life and be a bit more pleasant?

[Madbad]

He is stuck at home, nothing else to do.