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Old 02-05-2019, 01:36 AM
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Tempest just ended the no-petition agreement days before this was implemented

They killed their own guild and the server too

Nice fellas
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:38 AM
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Remen Tempest was there, they got a lot of FTEs in fact, but zero dragons. They were there nonetheless.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:41 AM
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Everyone that has lost members to Aftermath please send me a direct message on discord. I will be trading raiders back to the guilds they came from for first picks on loot off of bosses that i want. If blood guard wants manasana back let me know
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:42 AM
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Over / under if this new rule makes it through one rotation?

My guess is it won't.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:44 AM
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I didn't know killing a dragon for its loot wasn't enough to justify looting an item off it. That item is an obsolete version unless your guild won a foot race for rights to kill said dragon first /shrug
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:45 AM
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Why wouldn't you just change ToV bosses to summon at 100% health? That would solve the problem without a clunky rotation.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:33 AM
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Why wouldn't you just change ToV bosses to summon at 100% health? That would solve the problem without a clunky rotation.
You think that would fix the problem? I got news for you friend, that just means the problem is only a challenge for those without 250 active raiders.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:45 AM
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You think that would fix the problem? I got news for you friend, that just means the problem is only a challenge for those without 250 active raiders.
The problem as stated is multiple guilds were pulling bosses on top of each other at entrance.

You can't train entrance if you can't pull the boss away from his spawn.

Problem solved.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:50 AM
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The problem as stated is multiple guilds were pulling bosses on top of each other at entrance.

You can't train entrance if you can't pull the boss away from his spawn.

Problem solved.
Incorrect - guilds would still train the trash mobs on the way to the rooted dragons all over the zone instead of clearing
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I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.
It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

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No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value.
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:27 AM
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Incorrect - guilds would still train the trash mobs on the way to the rooted dragons all over the zone instead of clearing
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multiple guilds setting up on top of each other... pulling AEing dragons on top of each other, and on more than one occasion training each other wiping out multiple guilds... competing for the same target and trying to pull it to and fight it in the same spot, problems are unavoidable and it takes the fun out of the end game.
Do you see how these two things are different? Pulling the trash mobs out of the way is not the same as pulling an aoeing raid boss into another guild. Also, any guild that pulled all the trash mobs out of the way would basically be opening up the path for other guilds to get the FTE... Also the trash mobs will path back so your strategy would be a horrible one that would wipe you and your competition, so enjoy that ban I guess?

If people really can't understand how making the boss mobs summon at 100% HP would prevent the current pull strategies in ToV, we could just make it really simple and put in a rule that says no training at all allowed in ToV. Yeah, you'd have to actually play everquest and kill mobs to get to your precious dragon pixels, but I bet it would be a lot less stupid than a forced rotation.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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