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[mickmoranis]

"Men need to shut up and listen." @whereisdaz​ slams the #MattDamon-style responses to the #MeToo movement #TheDrum

https://twitter.com/ABCthedrum/statu...70539172118529

"not all men" BOOOOOOOO!
"not all immigrants" YAYYYYYYY!

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They didn't put theft up there. And I want to know who's getting killed.

of course a liberal is going to be OK with non whites being killed. If someone is being killed, someone is being killed. Why do you need to find out "who" is being killed? OH I already know. Because you only care about murder if it's a white person in a public venue like a movie theater or concernt (both places YOU go) but if they are killing minorities? Well that's because of slavery 200 years ago and we should be paying those people money cus it is specifically OUR fault.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Men need to shut up and listen." @whereisdaz​ slams the #MattDamon-style responses to the #MeToo movement #TheDrum

https://twitter.com/ABCthedrum/statu...70539172118529

"not all men" BOOOOOOOO!
"not all immigrants" YAYYYYYYY!



of course a liberal is going to be OK with non whites being killed. If someone is being killed, someone is being killed. Why do you need to find out "who" is being killed? OH I already know. Because you only care about murder if it's a white person in a public venue like a movie theater or concernt (both places YOU go) but if they are killing minorities? Well that's because of slavery 200 years ago and we should be paying those people money cus it is specifically OUR fault.

Well the whole bullshit point is that taking in immigrants will increase bad things happening to people that were here before the immigrants right? So if they have some sub community where murder and violence is more common among themselves -- it doesn't prove that native born Americans are anymore likely to get murdered, does it?

[mickmoranis]

Oceans 11 "we came up with a heist movie and cast popular actors who seemed to fit the ideas we had, and that's sexist"

Oceans 8 "we cast a heist movie specifically with only women, and that's not sexist at all"

[mickmoranis]

No that is not the point at all. The point is that contrary to liberal talking points, yes illegal immigrants commit more crime than legal immigrants.

If you want to say taking on more illegals will increase crime, you're safe to say that. If you want to say that that wont, there is data that contradicts that opinion.

But that doesn't change your opinion cus, well, you're a libtard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[loramin]

When the police don't come (or take hours to come) when there's a problem in your neighborhood you start settling it yourself, by force if necessary ... the exact same way native white people in medieval Europe used to settle things (they didn't have police either).

I imagine this makes immigrant/poor neighborhoods (there's a big overlap between the two) in any country more violent by nature, but it's hard to blame the immigrants for having crappier police protection than more affluent neighborhoods.

Also, immigrants tend to have seen some shit; you don't uproot your entire life and leave the only country you've ever known because things are going great, you leave because everyone around you is starving to death, the government is torturing/raping/murdering everyone, etc. That kind of psychic damage would make any person, anywhere, more violent. But if you have the empathy to say "hey people with shitty lives, why not come live with us where it's less shitty" you should have empathy to understand that people coming from those shitty lives will have a bit more mental shit to deal with.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When the police don't come (or take hours to come) when there's a problem in your neighborhood you start settling it yourself, by force if necessary ... the exact same way native white people in medieval Europe used to settle things (they didn't have police either).

If police do come then someone videotapes them out of context and makes up lies about how the victim was pleading for his life and the cops are raycist. Despite the fact that you seem unaware there is more police presence in minority neighborhoods than affluent ones.

But then again, are you saying that gun control is wrong because the people who live in the boonies have not only a right to own guns but they are a necessity because it takes 20-45 minuets for the police to arrive?

Or are you saying gang violence exists because people in gangland are protecting themselves from petty thieves and not killing each other over turf wars and living in a culture of violence?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If police do come then someone videotapes them out of context and makes up lies about how the victim was pleading for his life and the cops are raycist. Despite the fact that you seem unaware there is more police presence in minority neighborhoods than affluent ones.

But then again, are you saying that gun control is wrong because the people who live in the boonies have not only a right to own guns but they are a necessity because it takes 20-45 minuets for the police to arrive?

Or are you saying gang violence exists because people in gangland are protecting themselves from petty thieves and not killing each other over turf wars and living in a culture of violence?

I'm saying none of those things.

In general statistics overwhelmingly show that owning a gun does not make you or your family safer. While I don't remember the exact numbers, your chance of protecting yourself against the bad guys does go up by say 10% (or whatever the chance is you'll have your gun ready when you need it, will fire more accurately than the bad guys, etc.)

But, the chance of you even being in a situation where a gun would be relevant are already pretty slim, so really that doesn't increase your safety much at all. However, the chance of you committing suicide goes up, the chance a family member committing suicide goes up, the chance your kid will accidentally shoot someone (or themselves) goes up, etc. and when you add those together you are much less safe.

What I'm saying is that society's resources, including not just police protection but also fire protection, school funding, etc. should all be distributed equally. However (because they tend to be based on property taxes) we instead give the best society has to offer to the rich, the worst we can possibly give without feeling too bad to the poor, and then we wonder why the people who get so much less from society AND started off with so much less in the first place do so much worse.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm saying none of those things.

In general statistics overwhelmingly show that owning a gun does not make you or your family safer. While I don't remember the exact numbers, your chance of protecting yourself against the bad guys does go up by say 10% (or whatever the chance is you'll have your gun ready when you need it, will fire more accurately than the bad guys, etc.)

But, the chance of you even being in a situation where a gun would be relevant are already pretty slim, so really that doesn't increase your safety much at all. However, the chance of you committing suicide goes up, the chance a family member committing suicide goes up, the chance your kid will accidentally shoot someone (or themselves) goes up, etc. and when you add those together you are much less safe.

What I'm saying is that society's resources, including not just police protection but also fire protection, school funding, etc. should all be distributed equally. However (because they tend to be based on property taxes) we instead give the best society has to offer to the rich, the worst we can possibly give without feeling too bad to the poor, and then we wonder why the people who get so much less from society AND started off with so much less in the first place do so much worse.

Guns are always relevant in Texas

Keep that California acai berry hippie shit out west

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you dont even consider that crime in the country someone is fleeing from having a single iota of effect on said persons ability to justify crime, you blame americans.

Except that's not what I said at all, I actually said the opposite:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, immigrants tend to have seen some shit; you don't uproot your entire life and leave the only country you've ever known because things are going great, you leave because everyone around you is starving to death, the government is torturing/raping/murdering everyone, etc. That kind of psychic damage would make any person, anywhere, more violent. But if you have the empathy to say "hey people with shitty lives, why not come live with us where it's less shitty" you should have empathy to understand that people coming from those shitty lives will have a bit more mental shit to deal with.

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way to reduce crime in America, by illegal immigrants, is to not let illegal immigrants into the country, or give them a pass for committing crime.

The only reliable solution, end illegal immigration.

There is no way to "end illegal immigration" without a magic wand. But since I know that facts and logic won't convince y'all, I instead present a "documentary" written by right-wing libertarians on the topic.

What I will say though is that, since we don't have a magic wand, the next best way to end reduce illegal immigration would be to ... wait for it ... allow more legal immigration.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guns are always relevant in Texas

Keep that California acai berry hippie shit out west

By " California acai berry hippie shit out" do you really mean "facts" and "logic"? Because the facts about the (lack of) safety given to you by owning a gun are as indisputable as Mick's stats about illegal immigrants committing more crimes.

You can totally have the opinion that guns are awesome, fuck the depressed people that commit suicide with them, fuck the gun owners (or relatives thereof) who go crazy and shoot people (and fuck their victims), and fuck children who shoot each other with their parent's gun ... none of them matter as much as the (comparatively) freak gun owner who successfully defends themselves. Or you could argue that the government will come to get us soon, and that guns (which will do absolutely nothing against tanks, jets, or the bulk of the rest of our military apparatus) are necessary to protect our freedom. Or you can argue that the percentage of gun owners who don't fall into those statistics are the only ones that matter, and everyone else is too stupid and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun (although then you'd probably be pro-gun control ... through IQ tests).

But what you can't argue is that statistically guns make you and the people around you safer, because there is a mountain of evidence that they actually make things less safe.

[JurisDictum]

Maybe there would be a little less murder if we weren't arresting them at obscene rates for drug crimes and sending them to hardcore pound-me-in-the-ass prisons. Something about lots of prison time seems to make people more aggressive and less successful at parenting their 2-3 kids.