Skip the lines, its time to try RED

[shokar]

Originally Posted by botrainer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can this be moved to off-topic or to Red server chat, it has nothing to do with P99 Blue.

Move to red RNF please.

[Symbioticforks]

Imagine this nerds.

Red Server 400+ population.

Now imagine you get ported somewhere.

How much of your day would be spent on corpse runs to druid rings or wizard spires because there are groups of players everywhere actively seeking pvp.

You don't want Red with even half of what Blue currently has.

I normally don't play MMO's for the express purpose of the social interactions. I want raiding and I want gear. (to then murder people with) Realizing your childhood dreams of having a geared character and seeing exactly whats that's capable of in about a year instead of 4-5 years of my life - seems like a much better deal. (so play on Red)

I play Red for the Classic Everquest experience, because I'm from Vallon Zek, back when everyone would tell you Blue is filled with noobs and idiots who can't handle pvp. To me personally FTE and footraces is about as far away from Red (classic) as it gets, and not being able to fight over camps - forget it waste your whole day sitting there in line.

[Symbioticforks]

Originally Posted by syztem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Note, manna robes are roughly 15k plat on red server. I had 800k plat at the time, Above apex member is just mad I speak the truth. Manna robe sat for a week while I was unable to login, upon getting back on the guild leader @OP asked me if I had the manna robe. I jokingly did a /me does not have a <manna robe link> on him within minutes as we gathered to slay the mystical dragon that harasses the othmirs of cobalt scar.

He was already in full mental break down/anti spy mode at this time, and had never lead a serious raid guild. So he totally over looked the fact I did multiple Manna Robe links in emote, say, group and shout. I gave it to a warrior at the raid to pass to him when they ran off to do scout. TLDR: gave manna robe to another guildmate, not sure if it ever made it to the guild bank. but they blackhole stuff all the time worth more then 10-15k plat. I have no idea how you failed to work this out with a human being, just talking to each other in a private channel you couldn't resolve this? Mind blown.

Truth about what happened: I was fully geared from the previous guild who woke reds sleeper and had my primal and most of the loot I needed minus 2-3 pieces. One piece, vulak dagger that it took 8 months from the date of removal for the guild to get, that quoted poster has(he wanted me out of the way for competition he had primal but shitty gear so I would've had 10x the DKP he did by time the good loots dropped and he would have taken aback seat for a while) Lots of the officers, and majority of the guild that made up the full time players didn't like me. As such they were the former resistance, they farmed lodizal and VP for months after I left their guild on bad terms to join the glorious <Empire> and get showered in pixels. Not everyone was showered with pixels in <Empire> that shit was corrupt as fuck. Not to mention raiding with 80-90+ people meant absurd lines.

Upon gaining loots such as primal, kromzek crown, dain belt and numerous other items. It only made their hatred grow more and more. So finally when we were all guilded back together again, obviously its a small server and toxic people stay toxic. I was the top dps rogue in the guild, You were good, but got replaced sorry! and usually did DPS equal to 4-5 of their rogues. So I got a solo kill on a golem in Fear while an --OFFICER-- gave me his AoN to click before hand.

After linking the crappy loot the golem dropped, one hater screamed out in teamspeak "HES A SKELETON LOOK AT HIM, AON DROPPED HES FUCKING TRYING TO NINJA LOOT IT" to which officers said "ok guys calm down, we will petition a GM and check what loot dropped now kill him". I managed to pull my epic at 1% and avoid the embarrassment of YT. Only to be sent a tell after they realized again, I did majority of the dps and was still holding numerous droppable loots they wanted back including the officers AoN(yes an officer of the guild and one other basically set this all up for kicks) but guild was so high strung over loot at the time even after my removal, they lost 3-4 more prime raiders over AoNs before declaring it a DKP item not officer awarded. I don't recall who those players are, but AoN's are soon going to alts in Apex!

Mind you this guilds policy was Tabula Rasa, everything done in the past was forgotten(i knew a week into joining it wasn't because of the grudges people still harbored but this is how red is mind you) So basically over some 10k plat item and an AoN freakout they did the best thing by guild removing me. And you're still upset, trolling raids over 400k items, nobody has time for that. You may have got the short end of the stick, but you were being retarded about the whole situation and not coming clean or being honest about it in a timely manner. If I was an officer I wouldn't have time for childish behavior either. As I joined another guild that raided casually, hung out and did stuff together whenever we wanted with no schedules. After about 5 months of never seeing <Apex> outside of ToV and together in 60 man raids. Once they had full gear + primals, they finally started showing their faces to try and pvp on these decked out toons(OP 60 SK, dozekar/vulak loot(s) and more, still terrible cant kill anyone). Quoted poster, vulak dagger near bis velious still gets dunked by a kunark geared mithril rogue makes excuses.

Spend 7-8 months of raiding dkp to get 3 pieces of loot(I was 100% RA in every raid guild ive been in since I have no life), I suppose I've been in Apex for a year now? Taking on average one best in slot item every 3 weeks, not sure how you only ended up with 3 items - guess your last guild decked you out and you were due for a main switch, but were holding out for a Vulak Dagger that's your own fault. The average member gearing up takes way more than 3 items in 8 months that's insane. I was gladly ready to re-raid velious and help teach this content after beating it all in my previous guild. Super happy I was forced to leave and then sit and watch as they struggled over the easiest of raids. 7 months down the line I would have had to wait for vulak loot. Mind you, with 33 people and most of their dps with primal they still wiped in VP to PD, SW, even druushk somehow.

So my epic tale of red, Yeah its dead except to the existing players with 60s. Don't come and join apex. If you are even thinking or wanting to try to play red, Go look up Disposable Heros it's the leveling guild you'll see everywhere, Thunderdome is filled with griefers. You will enjoy the server more, not be voice tested + IP checked numerous times to see if anyone recognizes your voice or IP as a spy as in Apex. VPNs = auto kick. Who knows they may even require you to submit a photo ID and proof of address with some utility bills now to prevent spies. Your guild actually has spies, you promote that. So we're a little careful - sorry!

I should add, Tune originally made a post about a blue xfer named Hekktor. Hekktor took a break, gave his account information to the guildleader, and just recently came back. He took out 4 Thunderdome yesterday and was rewarded for his efforts in Sleeper's Tomb with a Primal Velium Warsword. Once in awhile someone else would log him in, however the player currently slaying your guildmates is the original owner. Send someone over to our lobby that isn't banned in our Teamspeak and you can see him in channel and talking. Who he dubbed "best blue transfer ever, 1-60 in a week bla bla bla) dude got his sleepers key, decked out. Now tune 'owns' the account, Hekktor was fake to begin with. Never existed. Tunes 100% RA rogue "Hekktor" was Tune boxing as a new app to get more loot and propaganda. He also 'inherited' many other accounts, including Ferel(60 cleric he told the guild NEEDED to be BIS velious geared to help heal the guild, getting gear dkp free while spending dkp on his SK to PVP, something a few of the officers caught on and did to get double item loots one free one paid) PS he charge backed Ferel for $750 afterwards.

tldr x2: RED IS DEAD, You're afraid people might join Apex and give your guild a hard time. I get why you would counter red recruitment. CHECK THE NUMBERS, LOGIN READ OOC IF MUST. OOC is hilarious, and low numbers are good if you're trying to complete quests without being harassed. I'll take another 150-200 people on Red, but I wouldn't want even 400 or 500 people. RUN OVER TO STORMFEATHER AND FIND HIM UP 75% OF THE TIME this is still camped all the time, you're insane..

end wall of text. Grats Apex on vulak! not.

[Deillon]

Originally Posted by syztem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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TLDR

If you want to move to red and get pixels pst to any apex member. If you want to be toxic and grief while getting hung up about something that happened almost a year ago (and post 2000 word essays about it) join thunderdome. Either way we will welcome you to red.

[heartbrand]

SEEK HELP YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL

[nyclin]

this dumpster fire of a thread accurately represents most of the reasons why red is dead

[TheDuck]

as much as i have always been at odds with syztem it is an accurate representation of the server. I have seen it so many times, loot starved blue converts come to red, and since pixels are 50x more rare on blue. they are incredibly thankful for 1 piece of loot and its easy to hide the fact that there is way more than that owed to them when they where playing on blue and managing one piece of uber loot every 3 months if they where lucky.

Apex is on its last legs, if you are lucky the guild will last long enough for you to finally get to 60 and play a cleric during that time and collect a ton of DKP only to have the guild disapear. more likely though since i actually play in <Apex> the guild will be dead in the next few weeks. We have been having to cancel raids due to no shows and GM's banning out guilds cleric boxes. ever since, everyone holding the guild together with glue(cleric/buffers/mages boxes) are to afraid to box, grinding our guild to a hault.

it's a real shame i wish they didnt come and ban our guild leaders cleric box it set a real bad precedent and now the rest of the rank and file wont box there clerics or buffers. we are dead in the water.

signed yours truely, an apex member who has been raiding for the last 8 months collecting dkp and watching other people get the good loots only to have it finally my turn to get the good stuff and have the guild sputter out

P.S. yea im mad. lol.

[Symbioticforks]

Originally Posted by TheDuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as much as i have always been at odds with syztem it is an accurate representation of the server. I have seen it so many times, loot starved blue converts come to red, and since pixels are 50x more rare on blue. they are incredibly thankful for 1 piece of loot and its easy to hide the fact that there is way more than that owed to them when they where playing on blue and managing one piece of uber loot every 3 months if they where lucky.

Apex is on its last legs, if you are lucky the guild will last long enough for you to finally get to 60 and play a cleric during that time and collect a ton of DKP only to have the guild disapear. more likely though since i actually play in <Apex> the guild will be dead in the next few weeks. We have been having to cancel raids due to no shows and GM's banning out guilds cleric boxes. ever since, everyone holding the guild together with glue(cleric/buffers/mages boxes) are to afraid to box, grinding our guild to a hault.

it's a real shame i wish they didnt come and ban our guild leaders cleric box it set a real bad precedent and now the rest of the rank and file wont box there clerics or buffers. we are dead in the water.

signed yours truely, an apex member who has been raiding for the last 8 months collecting dkp and watching other people get the good loots only to have it finally my turn to get the good stuff and have the guild sputter out

P.S. yea im mad. lol.

You're not an <Apex> member, this is a <Thunderdome> member ^

going as far as you can go - pathetic

[Swish]

Originally Posted by immaterial [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i enjoy red a lot, but only BECAUSE the pop is so low. i have a group of IRL friends and we can log into red and group together and get great exp. the low pop means we can actually dungeon crawl and go after specific drops.

no tunnelquest, no having to farm plat to buy stuff because all of the good camps/drops are on 24/7 lockdown, no sitting in the same spot for hours because every half-decent zone is packed. playing it this way, with a small group of friends and entire zones to ourselves, feels a lot more like how EQ was meant to be played when it was first designed (before it blew up and server populations were crazy).

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[Swish]

Originally Posted by shokar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Move to red RNF please.

This isn't an RNF thread, this is a thread inviting people to try EverQuest on another Project 1999 server. However much some people want to get angry about words on a forum, or the fact that there's a clue in the thread title and click it anyway...it's not an RNF thread.

If you want to make an angry response thread to this thread in RNF, that's obviously the better thing to do.