Shocking leaked image shows spirit of compromise on p99 in A/A's absence!

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. The fact that even with an alliance between three robustly populated guilds they still can't convince enough people to fucking sit and stare at a goddamned doorway - in shifts - is not a sign that they suck at the game. It's a sign that they are not masochistic, deranged, or obsessive people.

And that none of them really care much about their teams. Yeah its a game, but some people care more or take it more seriously than others. Of course they are going to realize better results. We can discuss the merits of it, whether it is a praiseworthy endeavor or wise investment, but the fact remains, those people care far more about their team than anyone in CSG or any of those other guilds. Most of A/A are the same way though, there just are far fewer (if any) selfless folks outside of A/A. Odd ain't it?

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that none of them really care much about their teams. Yeah its a game, but some people care more or take it more seriously than others. Of course they are going to realize better results. We can discuss the merits of it, whether it is a praiseworthy endeavor or wise investment, but the fact remains, those people care far more about their team than anyone in CSG or any of those other guilds. Most of A/A are the same way though, there just are far fewer (if any) selfless folks outside of A/A. Odd ain't it?

I'd rather discuss the merits of a completely senseless statement like "there just are far fewer (if any) selfless folks outside of A/A". We don't need to discuss the merits of strictly in-group/out-group tribalist, antisocial gameplay, or the nonexistent altruism of people who only help those who share their guildtag. Discussing that with someone who conflates this with selflessness would be boarding their one-way crazy train to the nether regions of nut town.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather discuss the merits of a completely senseless statement like "there just are far fewer (if any) selfless folks outside of A/A". We don't need to discuss the merits of strictly in-group/out-group tribalist, antisocial gameplay, or the nonexistent altruism of people who only help those who share their guildtag. Discussing that with someone who conflates this with selflessness would be boarding their one-way crazy train to the nether regions of nut town.

OK,we can do that. Setting aside developers, who outside of A/A are sacrificing significant portions of their real lives for their guilds or anyone else?

[Sallan]

^ Exactly. Every guild on the list is capable on their own - having the rare opportunity to enjoy content by all is going to definitely draw most everyone

[bktroost]

Today vulak attempt went way past CSG prime because of other guilds and pulls and then we had trouble getting him solo. In fact we decided at 2am Europe time to call it. Before that happened though we realized that we went from 80/60/30 to 80/30/10 and, while that favored one guild, it didn't feel like a win for CSG. So we decided to special circumstances roll 1/1/1. Well when we couldn't pull it out before it got to late we decided to do it tomorrow. The offer of 1/1/1 was immediately returned to me even though their guilds would be better tomorrow and I won't have 80.

It's about people >pixels

[titanshub]

Kittens helped kill 4 dragons and wiped pretty hilariously on woushi moments before the earthquake. All in all one of the best days I've ever had in EQ. Based on the response I've gotten from the rest of our people I think most feel the same way.

Whatever the politics and forum questing says there are many of us who were very happy to be able to run around try to kill dragons all over Norath.

Big thanks to Divinity for helping us do this!! We should have some petty good stuff up in our guild recruitment thread soon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sancta]

I think it's funny that many people on these forums blame A/A for the the state of the raid scene and completely forget that the P99 staff are the ones that made the rules the way they are. A/A didn't create FTE racing, the staff did.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by Sancta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's funny that many people on these forums blame A/A for the the state of the raid scene and completely forget that the P99 staff are the ones that made the rules the way they are. A/A didn't create FTE racing, the staff did.

A-A did create racing. The FTE mechanic and rules have moprhed over the years but the current iteration of raid rules created by Sirken,whilst awful in concept,were just following on from whst A-A lesdership wanted.
Breakn amd Detoxx both wanted to have unlimited racers in the line running to get an FTE. The fault lies more at Awakeneds feet though for strong arming Detoxx over CoTH racing (Awakened ignored the 2 mages per wing limit) and then creeping the racing in at Kael first. Awakened wanted an arms race as they had the neckbeards to win it.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A-A did create racing. The FTE mechanic and rules have moprhed over the years but the current iteration of raid rules created by Sirken,whilst awful in concept,were just following on from whst A-A lesdership wanted.
Breakn amd Detoxx both wanted to have unlimited racers in the line running to get an FTE. The fault lies more at Awakeneds feet though for strong arming Detoxx over CoTH racing (Awakened ignored the 2 mages per wing limit) and then creeping the racing in at Kael first. Awakened wanted an arms race as they had the neckbeards to win it.

Actually, following the logic of the thread so far.. Awakened cared about its members more and were the most super wonderful people who have been unfairly critized by the masses.

Am I doing this right, maskedmelon? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, following the logic of the thread so far.. Awakened cared about its members more and were the most super wonderful people who have been unfairly critized by the masses.

Am I doing this right, maskedmelon? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to say Awakened had the most dedicated, hardworking players who cared about their guild, then, sure ^^ its members cared about their guildmates more. I wouldn't say they are super wonderful people but in the eyes of the masses who argue for sharing & waiting (sacrifice & selflessness) over competition (whatever it may be), it is extraordinarily hypocritical to criticise them for it.

Its the hypocrisy that's annoying ^^

I do like your use of them phrase "most super winderful" though ^^ Very 'me' *thumbs up* ^.~b