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Old 07-26-2016, 11:00 PM
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Sure, we can increase the amount of data based on info from ice or sea bed cores to produce graphs like this

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10,000 years out of

500,000,000


Do you feel more confident about the statistical significance of that sample?

Unfortunately, those expanded data pools from cores rely on the assumption that we actually understand the effects of the greenhouses gases that, so far, we have failed to reliably model...

So we have...






150 years of data...
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:11 PM
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lol old climategate junk. Hold the door! Hod teh dor! Hod... etc

Climategate 'hide the decline' explained by Berkeley professor Richard A. Muller
Censoring The Decrease in Global Temperatures

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Old 07-26-2016, 11:16 PM
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:16 PM
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I don't believe in our ability to simulate systems as complex and chaotic as the weather. So the only way to proceed with confidence is through experiment, which we are not in a position to do. This isn't nihilistic, but rather realistic. There are plenty of systems that aren't complex and chaotic where both inductive and deductive reasoning work very well.

Also Lune, I don't understand why you seem totally unable to grasp the simple concept that one cannot determine causal relationships by pure observation, as one can never rule out a hidden joint cause, but your mind seems only capable of generating a stream of irrelevant straw men and insults. Your coworkers must find you delightful.
False equivalency on the last sentence. Because you don't believe in something doesn't mean it isn't real. You don't trust it for reasons that don't stand up to scrutiny tho'. The rationale is similar to evolution deniers who keep demanding that the sequence be more complete in order to trust it, but there's enough evidence to support the pattern, thing they're denying and demanding more from. It's a vicious cylce.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:33 PM
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So yeah, that's what I figured, it's just a joke to you. You're just a lefty troll, dude. You don't know or understand the material, but you want to fall into line and parrot the narrative so the one or two issues you do believe in get addressed by your handlers.


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I don't care about corporations as long as they're not lobbying to change laws against the common good just to get more dollars, ie tobbaco with "hey tobbacco is good for your health", coal "coal is clean !", energy lobbies "climate change doesn't exist". It's not even limited to corporations, it's the exact-same-modus-operandi for christian groups and denying evolution.
In other words as long as they fit the agenda. You sir, are pro-Corporatism. Very much into globalism.

Another BS added there "christian groups and denying evolution". You are not only for corporatism, but hard-left it looks. You're like iryd incarnate, though some backpedaling happened to him over time. Micro-evolution is a fact that no one denies. Macro-evolution is debated, healthy debate, among healthy debaters. It's the left such as yourself that lumps it all into one thing, just like you demonstrated with "global warming". You want to be right so bad, by your unproven ideas, you are willing to destroy people to get your agenda met, such as with corporations that don't support your views. But the ones that are bad ecology x10, they are allowed to prosper since they give lots of monies to the globalists.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:37 PM
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So yeah, that's what I figured, it's just a joke to you. You're just a lefty troll, dude. You don't know or understand the material, but you want to fall into line and parrot the narrative so the one or two issues you do believe in get addressed by your handlers.


In other words as long as they fit the agenda. You sir, are pro-Corporatism. Very much into globalism.

Another BS added there "christian groups and denying evolution". You are not only for corporatism, but hard-left it looks. You're like iryd incarnate, though some backpedaling happened to him over time. Micro-evolution is a fact that no one denies. Macro-evolution is debated, healthy debate, among healthy debaters. It's the left such as yourself that lumps it all into one thing, just like you demonstrated with "global warming". You want to be right so bad, by your unproven ideas, you are willing to destroy people to get your agenda met, such as with corporations that don't support your views. But the ones that are bad ecology x10, they are allowed to prosper since they give lots of monies to the globalists.
Do you smoke crack?
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:39 PM
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Unfortunately, those expanded data pools from cores rely on the assumption that we actually understand the effects of the greenhouses gases that, so far, we have failed to reliably model...

So we have...






150 years of data...
The dunks. Climate change nerds mad as fuck about this one.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:41 PM
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The dunks. Climate change nerds mad as fuck about this one.
Fallacies everywhere on both sides leaving me to speculate whether or not Daywolf smokes crack and if Maskedmelon is sterile. The pretense is Austin, TX level.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:44 PM
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Well, it looks observations do fit with the range of modeled outcomes. Unfortunately for climate scientists though, it seems the majority of their models suggest their measurements are wrong.

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Old 07-26-2016, 11:45 PM
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Putting it best: George Carlin on Global Warming
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