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Old 07-23-2016, 01:38 PM
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Finland also disagrees with Domo.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:43 PM
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Most shootings in America take place in large cities that have gun bans. Just something to think about.
So I assume most guns for shootings in America been bought outside citys where is no gun law?
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:44 PM
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Only 3% of shootings are commited with a legally owned fire-arm
Only current issue i could possibly see with USA firearm laws right now is issues with legal arms being sold through the black market, otherwise theres no real arguement. Criminals will be criminals, if a teen in Germany can obtain guns in an area where they are pretty much banned, i dont see how it would be different anywhere else
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:48 PM
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It cost them time to get a gun, and each min/hour/day/week it takes them longer to obtain a gun, the higher the chance that they will calm down and dont buy a gun at all.

How many shootings been in the world already because they happend "impulsive" (not planned) ?
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:52 PM
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It cost them time to get a gun, and each min/hour/day/week it takes them longer to obtain a gun, the higher the chance that they will calm down and dont buy a gun at all.

How many shootings been in the world already because they happend "impulsive" (not planned) ?
The longer they have to wait to get their gun, maybe instead of calming down they get more agitated and instead resort to filling a pressure cooker full of nails and ball bearings. The fact is, if someone is determined to cause harm, they'll see it through no matter how long it takes. They'll find a way.
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The longer they have to wait to get their gun, maybe instead of calming down they get more agitated and instead resort to filling a pressure cooker full of nails and ball bearings. The fact is, if someone is determined to cause harm, they'll see it through no matter how long it takes. They'll find a way.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:00 PM
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Also, while it is more difficult to kill someone with a knife than a firearm, it is just as easy to maim and the assault itself is more gruesome. Being decapitated or attacked with a saw is worse than being shot imo. Not that I would like to die either way, or at all for that matter.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:50 PM
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Did anyone see recently where a (((journalist))) tried to buy a gun (AR-15) I think trying to show how easy it is to get one? He was refused because of a domestic violence charge on his record. Its a myth that only felons cannot posses a gun. Due to a bill from the 90s misdemeanor domestic violence will cause you to be forbidden from owning or purchasing a gun.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ste...a-reporter-no/

He thinks its a conspiracy not to sell to reporters btw. You cant make this shit up.

ETA: They also denied him for having a history of alcohol abuse DOMO.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:02 PM
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Well, as much I like this debate here right now, at the end we just have diffrent opinions on this topic.

If america wants to keep ther weapons even though statistic shows that with good gun laws ther are less killings, than its fine with me.
Thats a topic america have to slove on ther own.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:12 PM
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Well, as much I like this debate here right now, at the end we just have diffrent opinions on this topic.

If america wants to keep ther weapons even though statistic shows that with good gun laws ther are less killings, than its fine with me.
Thats a topic america have to slove on ther own.
It's not about guns. The US has more murders per capita THAT DONT INVOLCE FIREARMS than a lot of other countries have total.

Getting rid of (legal) guns might reduce gun violence and might reduce overall violence thereby... but the US is still more violent than elsewhere anyways

But if you look at demographic slices of the US instead of the whole? Guess who owns the most guns but commit a very small amount of the country's violent crime? The well-off folk. Guess who own few guns but commit a majority of the violent crime? The poor folk.

There are problems that need fixing here that are a bigger contributor to violent crime than inanimate objects, and those fixes wouldn't involve disarming law-abiding citizens.

Guns don't cause crime. The worst mass killings are planes and fertilizer and trucks, not guns. Guns DO help stop crime. Guns DO have other purposes besides self-defense.

Too bad a shitload of people are ignorant and dependent and thin-skinned. They fear what they don't understand, devour anything they see on TV or the web that meshes with their preconceived notions as fact without critical thought, and are throw a fit any time someone else does something that upsets their delicate sensibilities.
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