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Old 12-25-2010, 06:17 PM
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I base this off the reason that I know more than you about longevity of holding and growing communities.

You should base it off how many PvP Bosses have been spawned in this very thread that MAKE a pvp server fun to play on.

I think there is much more thought that needs to take place with the staff instead of "lol you take my code? lol fag."
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:20 PM
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Sorry but that makes no sense. Just because Rogean is part of both projects, does not make them affiliated. The Project 1999 Server is Nilbogs project, so it is his decision if the source is released or used in any other way.

Anyway, this discussion is moot since in the end it is up to Nilbog and he already said the source will not be made public at the moment. So either wait until this changes and accept the fact that the current focus is on Project 1999 (PvE), or create a similiar project your self.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:21 PM
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I base this off the reason that I know more than you about longevity of holding and growing communities.
So how do you figure you know more then me? Do you know me? This shows how full of your self you realy are.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:30 PM
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the current focus is on Project 1999 (PvE)
If you guys spend months on getting Kunark quests / items done when I have been offering resources for, god knows how long, I'm going to rage pretty hard.

The problem I see is that for EVERYONE to play on a more stable codebase you need a larger force to work on it. P99 is damn good, but it still has dupes, zone crashes, server crashes, and packet exploits.

There is HUGE problems with the codebase. So incredibly huge that P99 wouldn't even be stable for mass pvp to happen.

We want the code to free open to ADVANCE the power of the code. To make it less sploity. For zone servers not to crash, to make an even play-field for all pvpers.

The "What do we get out of it" is not a server in which people can dupe whatever the hell they want, and there being 20 different ways to do it. Crashing the server, and there being 10 different ways to do it.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:31 PM
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So how do you figure you know more then me? Do you know me? This shows how full of your self you realy are.
Because I built a gaming network that as of October 2010 grew bigger than IGN and right below MTV.

So ya, kinda a big deal around the internet.


Mostly using it to troll you so calm down. Seriously; wtf pvp?
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:32 PM
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OH NOES!!! Everyone down on their knees, we have a "big deal" here!! *yawn* Yeah im not impressed.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:34 PM
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OH NOES!!! Everyone down on their knees, we have a "big deal" here!! *yawn* Yeah im not impressed.
WTB P99 server, will increase stability of Eqemu x5.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:59 PM
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Cyrius, Nilbog is the founder but both of us make up the management of the server. Any large decisions are discussed and debated between us until a decision is reached. For the most part we have a common set of mind, and have common opinions on most situations.

If Nilbog feels strongly enough about something then I respect his decision, such as the release if the source and database. The opposite has been true in many situations where I felt strongly about something and he would respect my opinion.

I don't see us making the source public. There is too much proprietary changes for that, as well as systems being made public that would compromise our security and hacking detection methods.

The best chance you guys have is a pvp server operated by the current staff. Both Nilbog and I wouldn't mind running a pvp server, however you must understand that the desire for pve does outweigh pvp, and the current focus is on that and Kunark. PvP servers are also very tedious and stressful to run, as the player base is MUCH more difficult to work with.

This is why I said that maybe when Kunark is out and epics are close to done, we can consider a pvp server. However, to keep the main server the desirable one, we may limit the second server to classic.

Once again, this is not a promise or a garauntee to anything other than we will consider it.
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Old 12-25-2010, 07:05 PM
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However, to keep the main server the desirable one, we may limit the second server to classic.
i concur with everything u said except above quote. you cant change the mindset of players to make a pve server the desireable one. if they are pvpers by heart, they will stay pvpers forever...

just make a mirrored pvp server to the current one! it will be a win win situation and the influx of new players to your project1999 will double, mark my words
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Old 12-25-2010, 07:14 PM
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This is why I said that maybe when Kunark is out and epics are close to done, we can consider a pvp server.
Bro

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If you guys spend months on getting Kunark quests / items done when I have been offering resources for, god knows how long, I'm going to rage pretty hard.
Kunark is a complete mess, we can resolve it in 1 hour and get to testing.
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