Are you kidding me?

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't change the fact though, that raiding in Velious right now is not desirable by any means. CSG didn't push for racing, we pushed for no zone pulls. We wanted the 1 hour time period so that guilds could clear down and kill the mob on its spot, not for any other reason.

In its current state, Velious raiding is unplayable by anyone but the 5%, and if thats how its meant to be, its working as intended. If not, someone has to look at solutions that are not about what spells you are allowed to use or how many hail marys you have to say before FTEing. We keep being told we didn't want to talk about soltuions, but the problem is, the "problems" Detoxx and Daldaen wants solutions for, are not our problems.

Dissecting this great wall of text, my best counter argument.

The very moment you went to Sirkens steam and made demands on how you wanted NTOV to operate (and got those changes), you become part of the dialogue of raid rules lawyer-questing. These "problems" are your problems so long as you wish to play in our end of the raid scene. CSG's prolonged time in class R has made you far to naive and blissfully unaware of the true face of the cutthroat competition in the raid scene, this is simply what you must face if you choose to go against A/A.

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wipe it clean 2016

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[mrmop520]

It just seems silly to limit players to simply scale of wolf or w/e so that they cannot use clickies to gain an advantange. Maybe it's just me but a large part of what makes Everquest unique is the ingenious ways you can use items like clickies to improve your ability to kill, race etc. So what crown of rile gives you the ability to jump more- thats kind of the point of an instant clicky endurance item.. should we ban bladestoppers because they let classes rune and gain aggro that couldn't before? The fact that shadowstep masks (that are no rent 1-charge and take a lot of time to prepare) were banned from VP racing was ridiculous - it was at best a second gained from using them and at worst spun you around and disorientated you during the run!

[Skew]

Originally Posted by mrmop520 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It just seems silly to limit players to simply scale of wolf or w/e so that they cannot use clickies to gain an advantange. Maybe it's just me but a large part of what makes Everquest unique is the ingenious ways you can use items like clickies to improve your ability to kill, race etc. So what crown of rile gives you the ability to jump more- thats kind of the point of an instant clicky endurance item.. should we ban bladestoppers because they let classes rune and gain aggro that couldn't before? The fact that shadowstep masks (that are no rent 1-charge and take a lot of time to prepare) were banned from VP racing was ridiculous - it was at best a second gained from using them and at worst spun you around and disorientated you during the run!

Life is full of people who want something for nothing Wispy. This is a clash of ideology and its really pointless putting forward counter-arguments.

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A second is a long time in online elf simulator

[Freakish]

It sounds like Phara Dar is a natural barrier to entry to Velious mobs?

Now that's classic.