Luclin models smooshed?

[Thulghor]

Losing the option for Luclin models makes me a little sad, but it isn't a deal breaker by any means. Life goes on.

[Axlrose]

Perhaps I am subtly masochist, but I forgot about the night vision aspect in the earliest game and look forward to that change eventually. And I have some non infravision characters in stock too ready to go bump in the night.

[absol]

I'm on the server, and everyones cool. People leveling up, getting on with things, someone gave my shammy a crested mistmoore shield for free. I forget your name friend but you know who you are, a 58 Druid. Gave me thorns, then another Druid was running around Oasis buffing everyone (numerous times he went OOM so he just medded up and started buffing again).

That sort of thing is infectious so I went to EC and started finding people I could help out. Sowed everyone I could, went to Freeport and bound an Iksar there, refused the donation even though I don't even have money for my spells. And thats the spirit of Everquest - people needing help and getting it.

Then I come to the forums and people aren't happy with the old models and threaten to quit unless the luclin models are reinstated. And the people that are happy with the old models are angry too, for some reason, and they're posting insulting images and telling people to leave. Everyone getting angry, throwing tantrums, fighting.

It feels like people are channeling that 15 year old kid they were back in 99, when they discovered flaming and newsgroups for the first time. And they're unable to separate that from the father/mother they are now, with the mortgage, career and responsibilites that comes with 2015. You don't need all this drama to relive EQ. It was a part of it back then, sure. But we're all older now and life should have chipped away those rough edges.

If you enjoy Project 1999 and want to give back to the devs, a great way to start is to be civil with one another. Make the forums a welcoming place, Rogean et al will appreciate it. If you disagree with the decisions of the devs, there's a way of getting your point across and having a calm debate. Offer a compromise, or suggestions. The devs will listen to that, if you just offer threats they're more likely to dig their heels in than cave to demands. And likewise, if someone says stuff you disagree with don't exacerbate the problem by attacking them. You can disagree with them in a civil manner, you don't need to lose your cool and tell people to leave the server.

These forums will be newcomers first point of contact with the game. Try to make it a good one.

[Swish]

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[Zaela]

Hokkay, found some time where I was bored: for you luclin model lovers out there, a quick and dirty workaround thingy https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ide%20Door.zip

On the one hand, it also works around the internal model dependencies (don't need human for erudite or wood elf for other elf). On the other hand, I hope you like baldness and, if a robe-wearer, pantslessness. External mesh pieces (like the baggy parts of robes) don't seem to get loaded correctly. Dunno if that would be fixable by cramming more data in there (where is hair even loaded from?). No idea if this applies to bulky plate armor or not!

Suitably flawed, but I wouldn't expect this to work for very long in any case.

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[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Zaela [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(where is hair even loaded from?)

lgequip.s3d and lgequip_amr.s3d load hair and bulk armor/robe/sash components.

[Zaela]

Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lgequip.s3d and lgequip_amr.s3d load hair and bulk armor/robe/sash components.

Thanks for that. Cramming all the lgequip* data in seems to have fixed everything. Pretty complete workaround now.

Use it while you can: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ide%20Door.zip

Open source and all that (it's all scripts). Just unzip, launch exe, point it at your EQ folder when prompted, select what you want, hit the button and give it a good while to do its work. Only uses files you already have in your EQ folder, and creates a backup of the things it changes.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Zaela [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for that. Cramming all the lgequip* data in seems to have fixed everything. Pretty complete workaround now.

Use it while you can: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ide%20Door.zip

Open source and all that (it's all scripts). Just unzip, launch exe, point it at your EQ folder when prompted, select what you want, hit the button and give it a good while to do its work. Only uses files you already have in your EQ folder, and creates a backup of the things it changes.

You're a hero my friend. I hope everyone that was glad this got changed cause they enjoy others having their fun ruined are very sad at this moment in time.

[Revelation]

Originally Posted by Zaela [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for that. Cramming all the lgequip* data in seems to have fixed everything. Pretty complete workaround now.

Use it while you can: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ide%20Door.zip

Open source and all that (it's all scripts). Just unzip, launch exe, point it at your EQ folder when prompted, select what you want, hit the button and give it a good while to do its work. Only uses files you already have in your EQ folder, and creates a backup of the things it changes.

Can a dev confirm/deny if this is allowed? Don't wanna get banned over silly models which I think should have been left allowed..

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Zaela [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hokkay, found some time where I was bored: for you luclin model lovers out there, a quick and dirty workaround thingy https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ide%20Door.zip

On the one hand, it also works around the internal model dependencies (don't need human for erudite or wood elf for other elf). On the other hand, I hope you like baldness and, if a robe-wearer, pantslessness. External mesh pieces (like the baggy parts of robes) don't seem to get loaded correctly. Dunno if that would be fixable by cramming more data in there (where is hair even loaded from?). No idea if this applies to bulky plate armor or not!

Suitably flawed, but I wouldn't expect this to work for very long in any case.

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Pssst... Luclin models are still available and have not been confirmed to be against the rules by any official source. Anyone claiming you'll get banned or that Luclin models were removed is either dumb or being dishonest. The way I understand it is that they nerfed the previous method to enable Luclin models because of an exploit people were using on Red server to turn Skeleton models into Human models to circumvent people using AoN's to remove their nameplates. Thus changes were made to verify the globalload file when you log into the game. This had the side-effect of disabling Luclin models that were enabled with the previous method. The method quoted above still works for Luclin models and hasn't been forbidden by any official source. Fair warning there are some graphical glitches with these models. Some of the Velious armor doesn't load right. But it works well enough.

All credit to Zaela. Pras on the good work.