Shamans

[Syft-X]

Oh three melees in empire two of which play rogues said so must be legit, lol you guys seriously trying to sell that?

Pls chuckdusky hit someone for a 1600 a few weeks ago, Reebz jacked an empire for 1600 just the other day, you guys seriously trying to sell this BS?

[fiegi 8.0]

Originally Posted by BigMagicJerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just joined this server and have a question about shaman viability for PvP -

I know I'm coming up against twinks; however, from having everything either resisted, dispelled via pumices or cured with an unending chain of potions - I am beginning to question their power.

Have I just been unlucky? Maybe I should just go with a SK afterall [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it gets better at higher levels (low level PvP right now) - what do you guys think?

Yea this is pretty standard for this server, everyone is prepared with pots and pumice - really you shouldn't be dying to a shaman period in pvp as long as your prepared.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh three melees in empire two of which play rogues said so must be legit, lol you guys seriously trying to sell that?

Pls chuckdusky hit someone for a 1600 a few weeks ago, Reebz jacked an empire for 1600 just the other day, you guys seriously trying to sell this BS?

944 damage backstab on live

Looks to me like if that was a double, that would be a 1900 damage double. And that character probably didn't have capped strength. The melee damage is exactly where it should be at, the problem is that AC isn't providing a big enough effect.

The chances of backstabs hitting for 1600+ is very low, and we get one chance every 30 minutes. I personally haven't hit that hard on anyone who wasn't sitting, and rogues always oneshot people on live who were sitting if they used duelist. Quit qq'ing

[fiegi 8.0]

haha facultas 50megs ss's still up? geezus wish I put all my ss's up there!

[filthyphil]

you pals love to jerk each other off, this thread went off topic on page 3.

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2040 for sure is possible, as I recently saw a 1020 duelist. It's just a very small chance of it happening. The issue at hand is whether or not we should be hitting this hard, I've seen archived screenshots of rallos zek that nirgon posted, where a rogue backstabs for 470 without duelist.

Mid to high 400's is something I did frequently see on live from rogues without any buffs (were elves as well so they were nowhere near 250 str). So it's really hard to figure out if rogues are doing more max damage than intended. What is certain is that armor class is not working correctly, as I can see no difference in damage numbers between cloth and plate for the most part. I almost feel like I backstab plate for higher average damage than cloth.

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

944 damage backstab on live

Looks to me like if that was a double, that would be a 1900 damage double. And that character probably didn't have capped strength. The melee damage is exactly where it should be at, the problem is that AC isn't providing a big enough effect.

The chances of backstabs hitting for 1600+ is very low, and we get one chance every 30 minutes. I personally haven't hit that hard on anyone who wasn't sitting, and rogues always oneshot people on live who were sitting if they used duelist. Quit qq'ing

Guy in pic prob has avatar and duelist against a sitting opponent. Pic was taken in Velious, that 944 was probably close to max hit for Velious era. In Kunark R99 sees 1K+ backstabs, in Velious we will be seeing 1.1k+ duelists with avatar.

Shits broke, please fix Rog backstabs thx.

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guy in pic prob has avatar and duelist against a sitting opponent. Pic was taken in Velious, that 944 was probably close to max hit for Velious era. In Kunark R99 sees 1K+ backstabs, in Velious we will be seeing 1.1k+ duelists with avatar.

Shits broke, please fix Rog backstabs thx.

1k+ those are just the regular ones, there is absolutely no cap on BS dmg saw Reebz hit someone for like 1600 the other day and no they weren't sitting just one of his hits was 1k the other was like 598.

But of course Salt is gonna lie he plays a rogue and still dies indoors, like when Slathars Necro dropped him 1v1 in seb.

[Pikrib]

I agree swift you are 100% correct. 2100 double BS's are BS If they can't fix AC they should just drop 40% off all melee damage imo. =)
















After agreeing with Syft just now I got the ugly feeling that I am trolling myself more than I am trolling Salt at this point.

*Pikrib exits thread and walks into incoming traffic then gets hit by porche on it's way to Hogwarts*

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree swift you are 100% correct. 2100 double BS's are BS If they can't fix AC they should just drop 40% off all melee damage imo. =)
















After agreeing with Syft just now I got the ugly feeling that I am trolling myself more than I am trolling Salt at this point.

*Pikrib exits thread and walks into incoming traffic then gets hit by porche on it's way to Hogwarts*

LOL it really is just a common sense thing, so don't feel too bad. Can't ask for classic rules on every other class, and expect to keep custom dmg on melee's.

If you want classic it has to be across the board.

[Smedy]

pure melee especially monk needs a big tone down on red99, try the pvp bugs forum

if rogues are hitting for 1600, ya lol, i never saw a bs over 450 and that was with primal and max velious tov gear in luclin....