What attitudes and philosophies do you hate in P1999?

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To all reading this, abandon thread now. It devolved into a semantic debate about the definition of "easy"

I foresee this continuing for the next 10 pages since Xer0 insists on getting the last word in to "win an internet argument about Everquest" is his #1 daytime priority

So there's somethng wrong with me responding to people who are replying to my remarks? That's fresh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

On topic:

1. Hybrid hate / shared xp penalty fear (players w/ penalties effectively consume xp as if they were 2 or so levels higher. That's it).
2. NBG fanaticism and other exploitations of sound logic applied to false premises.
3. EQcommerce hate - if you don't like a price, don't accept it. There is no reason to b offended.
4. Legitimization of exploits due to classic nature.

[simpo]

I can't find much to complain about, although I'm fairly new to the server (46 enchanter 30 monk), but there is one thing. It's min/max people in regular groups who are anal about potential groupmates.... I was in a group where one guy left because a ranger was invited. Not only did he leave but he threw a hissy fit over it. Had groups whine and moan over getting the perfect class. I'm perfectly aware of group setups and certain classes being necessities in certain areas but I feel like if we're looking for a misc class and a ranger or druid is there, we should invite them. I feel like everyone should play the class they like and not be discriminated against even when we're looking for something that fits their role.

Overall though people are great here and the attitudes have mostly been really good and from what I've seen, the "unwritten" (or actually written) rules seem to work exactly the want I would like them to.

[PDX0621]

^^^Make a ranger and group with me! Seriously, I don't get it. Just f*cking group already! I'll eat the "hybrid exp penalty" any day if that means filling the last slot in a group, or getting that pally or ranger who was LFG in. Sure, you may "lose" a tiny bit of experience, but you never know when that pally lay hands or heal or off tank or ranger root / CC assist may save you. I love unorthodox groups. Some of the best groups I've ever been in have have 2/3 of the same class. 3 Clerics? No problem! 4 monks? Been there, done that. Just group people!

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On topic:

1. Hybrid hate / shared xp penalty fear (players w/ penalties effectively consume xp as if they were 2 or so levels higher. That's it).
2. NBG fanaticism and other exploitations of sound logic applied to false premises.
3. EQcommerce hate - if you don't like a price, don't accept it. There is no reason to b offended.
4. Legitimization of exploits due to classic nature.

Agree with all these, but #3 specifically...

If you don't want to haggle or your not flexible on your prices, just auction that... "10k firm" is simple enough. Then you can complain about those that ignore that... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The expectation that people shouldn't haggle either way is crazy to me. Your not the only one with the item. /shrug

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you really think it's difficult to discern your location by cross referencing a map.. I'm afraid you don't know the meaning of adversity.

I think there is a point that's being missed. It's not about what you can do OUT of the game. The server admins and players can't stop you from doing every thing in RL that may give you an advantage in play. They can try to stop boxing, RMTing, scripting, and or other exploits that are considered unfair or give you an advantage (even small ones!). Realistically they can't stop every thing though. Nor is it worth attempting to do so. Reward vs gain. What they can do is take a stance by choosing not to have the option provided by the game.

If you want to use "cheat*" websites with maps and quest walk thrus.... there isn't much Devs or players can do to stop you. They certainly don't need to add it to the game, which would clearly suggest they "condone" it.

So if maps in game doesn't make a diff for you... then stop "cheating*" and don't use them out of game, unless you drew them yourself!


Krey

*The term "cheat" or "cheating" is used in reference to websites and publications in the time frame of p99 using this term to describe themselves, by providing detailed walkthrough information and guides including maps for many multiple games. It's NOT a reference to using scripting or violation of EULA agreements.

[stormlord]

Rangers never deserved the hate they received. They were a powerful class. The ~40% experience penalty was just a cheap overestimation compensation for their powers. Personally, as a player who played a ranger to 85 and played one when EQ was a baby, I think the experience penalty was a nod to our greatness. It's like THE MAN comes over to you and knocks you down because you're too NINJA. THE MAN has a reputation so you'll just continue on being king in hiding. And that's what I did. I enojoyed every opportunity to cast a snare or root to save someone's butt or to cast some heals and defy the "Ranges can't heal!" popular sentiments. Of course I could have sat back and watched them die, and sometimes I had to to keep the whole "Rangers suck" thing alive. Becuse even on the best days, I knew THE MAN was watching us from behind hte curtain.

[pheerie]

without reading the rest of the thread... the typical badass forum/game troll with a thousand inside jokes and inside digs and insults, that thinks this makes them special somehow. This is pretty much the same as any internet community. Somehow it seems more douchy here though.

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

without reading the rest of the thread... the typical badass forum/game troll with a thousand inside jokes and inside digs and insults, that thinks this makes them special somehow. This is pretty much the same as any internet community. Somehow it seems more douchy here though.

all my this :P

[Rayzor84]

Douche immature players who, while in the wrong, insist u wronged them and try to tell people not to group with u or threaten to leave if u join the group over personal issues.

Seems less adults play p1999 than live at the same era.

[sox7d]

Originally Posted by Rayzor84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Douche immature players who, while in the wrong, insist u wronged them and try to tell people not to group with u or threaten to leave if u join the group over personal issues.

Seems less adults play p1999 than live at the same era.

Somewhat related, I keep a mental list. If someone doesn't invite me into a group when they have room, I break my "invite any non-solo class by their second LFG call, regardless" rule.