Naming Policy

[yaaaflow]

To be fair he does make a somewhat valid point that forums for each individual server were not hosted on the everquest website and it instead fell to the community to make and populate a forum for their particular server.

This comparison to p99 of course falls apart entirely when one considers that there is only one p99 server, and with the exception of the Rants and Flames forum every single subforum on project1999.org has an equivalent over on the official EQ forums.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nalkin gets it; Lazortag never will.

I really don't care about appropriate names. I've never participated in any of the name nazi antics. I don't really care if my name gets changed. I am super amused that Starklen immediately launched into google to search for my randomly generated elf name.

My entire point is consistency and even a vague semblance of fairness. I like Cyrius and I think Uthgaard is alright, too, but they both are taking the server farther in the direction of "because I said so", which I personally consider a mistake. Without the player base, this server is just another personal playground in that long list of emulator servers we all ignore every time we launch the software.

Maybe you don't think that can happen here. You would be wrong.

This isn't really a fair account of what happened in this thread. You asserted that IB was somehow going to be favoured by not getting its name changed, after which it was clarified that the policy wasn't aimed at guild names. This is what you said in response to Aasimon concerning this:

Originally Posted by Alawen

I would also say that you are making it very clear that equal justice does not apply on Project 1999, which is, of course, something you are clearly entitled to do. It is, at the end of the day, your sandbox, and you can make whatever arbitrary rules and rulings you so choose about who gets to play, with what and for how long.

As far as I can tell (since I can actually read, and you can't), this isn't at all consistent with Nalkin's interpretation of the meaning behind your posts in this thread - which is curiously what you stuck to in the end. Nowhere in your post does it say, "it's inconsistent that the policy applies to character names and not to guild names". Maybe Nalkin has a point, but you never did. You just kept repeating things that were already adequately responded to. I actually can't believe that I had the courtesy to respond to everything in your enormous TLDR posts and you didn't respond to one word in mine.

Also, on an unrelated note, Estu is very smart.

My opinion in the end is that this "policy change" will change very little and people are overreacting, since the guides will probably just adhere to something resembling the old standard and only change really egregious names that they see or are petitioned to them. If the old standard was technically the same as this one as Uthgaard and others have said, then I think some fault lies with whoever wrote the old policy, because it does seem overly strict (names that are anachronistic, or references to real-world media, are probably harmless, but like Nalkin I care really little either way and can't fathom why people like Alawen have shat a brick over this. Also, it's pretty much classic, so I can't complain).

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alawen, shut the fuck up already. You're fucking more annoying than Finawin (didn't think that was possible) and nobody gives a shit about your opinion.

Nothing more pathetic than someone narcissistic enough to make a "Goodbye" thread and then comes crawing back and shits up a thread with 7 pages of pure nerd-rage.

No you shut up!!!!!!!!!11111one

I'm going to explain a couple things. I'll use small words so you have some vague hope of understanding.

This thread didn't begin in R&F. It was moved here about the time Starklen aka mouthbreather decided made it personal.

There has been no elevation in my heartrate throughout the entire thread. I have no horse in this race. None of my character names violate the policy.

"Inglourious Basterds" clearly violates any reasonable naming policy. I don't really care if the name continues to exist; I simply pointed out the glaring inconsistency in the policy.

I knew, even as I wrote my original post and then went to bed last night, that one of the learning disabled IB defenders would go off on it. Yes, that's you, Starklen, Gwence and Glith.

Still waiting on links to those Sony server forums, Magicflow, but I'm sure you're much too busy grinding out your next $50.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by yaaaflow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair he does make a somewhat valid point that forums for each individual server were not hosted on the everquest website and it instead fell to the community to make and populate a forum for their particular server.

This comparison to p99 of course falls apart entirely when one considers that there is only one p99 server, and with the exception of the Rants and Flames forum every single subforum on project1999.org has an equivalent over on the official EQ forums.

The only reason anyone ever read the official forums was for patch notes. The rest of it was a bunch of trite and obvious crap. Real community discussions happened on private servers, usually on EZ Board, which has no become Yuku or something like that. Real class discussions happened on private sites, i.e. Monkly Business, Safehouse, Steel Warrior and so on.

The fact that the Project 1999 forums are administered and censored by the same individuals who run the server is very much not classic.

Oh wait, you said you read the official forums. Never mind.

[Starklen]

You got mad that I insisted you change your name to be consistent. I know you take things seriously enough to interpret that as an insult so you get a pass I guess.

[ryuut1]

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[Bagzan]

"Reasonable" is subjective and it's been stated multiple times that the name is fine by people that actually have the power to make that claim so clearly it doesn't violate it. Do you realize, and this isn't a flame about you, just a statement of fact, that you try and pass off your (often biased or flat out wrong [in the case of the shaman questions thread where you said only Ogre shaman can solo things like Lodizal]) opinions as fact or do you honestly believe that everything you say is the unfiltered truth?

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't really a fair account of what happened in this thread. You asserted that IB was somehow going to be favoured by not getting its name changed, after which it was clarified that the policy wasn't aimed at guild names. This is what you said in response to Aasimon concerning this:



As far as I can tell (since I can actually read, and you can't), this isn't at all consistent with Nalkin's interpretation of the meaning behind your posts in this thread - which is curiously what you stuck to in the end. Nowhere in your post does it say, "it's inconsistent that the policy applies to character names and not to guild names". Maybe Nalkin has a point, but you never did. You just kept repeating things that were already adequately responded to. I actually can't believe that I had the courtesy to respond to everything in your enormous TLDR posts and you didn't respond to one word in mine.

Also, on an unrelated note, Estu is very smart.

My opinion in the end is that this "policy change" will change very little and people are overreacting, since the guides will probably just adhere to something resembling the old standard and only change really egregious names that they see or are petitioned to them. If the old standard was technically the same as this one as Uthgaard and others have said, then I think some fault lies with whoever wrote the old policy, because it does seem overly strict (names that are anachronistic, or references to real-world media, are probably harmless, but like Nalkin I care really little either way and can't fathom why people like Alawen have shat a brick over this. Also, it's pretty much classic, so I can't complain).

I didn't respond to you because you're simply not interesting. It was clear what bandwagon you were part of with the silly pop culture references of both your guild tag and your forum name. The dialog you wanted to have was extremely obvious. Going through the exercise of that dialog would have been tedious at best.

Do you feel more respected now that I quoted your post and typed some words to you?

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Starklen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You got mad that I insisted you change your name to be consistent. I know you take things seriously enough to interpret that as an insult so you get a pass I guess.

I'm still not mad, Starklen. I was sincerely amused that you went after my randomly generated elf name in Google. I could seriously care less if my name was changed to another randomly generated elf name; this is just the one people recognize me by. I don't even particularly like it. People always called me Al or Ala and I think those are both kinda clunky names.

You, on the other hand, were obviously quite pissed off when I called you a mouthbreather. Mouthbreather.

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason anyone ever read the official forums was for patch notes. The rest of it was a bunch of trite and obvious crap. Real community discussions happened on private servers, usually on EZ Board, which has no become Yuku or something like that. Real class discussions happened on private sites, i.e. Monkly Business, Safehouse, Steel Warrior and so on.

The fact that the Project 1999 forums are administered and censored by the same individuals who run the server is very much not classic.

Oh wait, you said you read the official forums. Never mind.

Oh good you fit in one more personal attack in there dude, I hear that those are very good ways to support an argument!

My point: in classic EQ there were forums hosted by Sony that held roughly the same purpose as the project1999.org forums

Your point: The forums that most people used for each individual everquest server was hosted independently.

My point: So why not host your own forums for the project1999 community if you feel that strongly about it.

Your point: You said you'd duel a guy and then you didn't! You sold p99 stuff for real money! I don't know what, or when, or to who, but if I say so it must be true!