Building a Mosque??? WTF

[Eccentricaa]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its gotten to the point where anytime an American looks around the world and sees something that is immoral or unjust he is called everything from ethnocentric to racist to ignorant. Sometimes, its not just some ignorant American pointing the finger at some culture he just doesn't take an interest in understanding.

Agree with you there. Morality is subjective. The concept of just and unjust also varies by country, religion, as well as changes in time. There was a time in America when eye for an eye, was a just punishment. Now, cutting off a persons hand, hanging them from a tree, dragging them behind a horse, or burning them for being witches would seem cruel or unusual.

The constitution was designed to be flexible enough to change with the times, but strong enough to prevent abuse of powers. The separation of church and state was to ensure that government would not interfere in the matters of the church. It was the churches that wanted to keep government out of their business.

Times have changed, for what ever reason, churches no longer wish to see separation of church and state and tend to ignore that aspect of the constitution.

[Orkimedes]

they can have a mosque on ground zero when we can have a disney land in mecca.


muslims wear thier evil on thier face like a mask

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Orkimedes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they can have a mosque on ground zero when we can have a disney land in mecca.

When I was a kid I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right. If we want majority-muslim countries to allow greater religious freedom (something which was a foreign policy objective of the Bush administration and presumably also of the Obama administration), maybe we should set the example. I just don't see how your suggestion is at all productive.

[Lazortag]

Rasterburn is an idiot. Just because a "court" decided something doesn't mean that moderate islam is automatically brutal and evil. That really was his only argument. A "court" ruled it so that proves that even their "moderates" are crazy scimitar-wielding, uncivilized brutes.

In this historical moment there are a lot of widely-documented human rights violations being committed by muslims. If you're completely ignorant you'll automatically deduce that these crimes were committed because Islam is an inherently evil religion, or somehow moreso evil than other religions. I guess this is possible, but really unlikely - it's not clear how Islamic canon is any more evil than Christian canon (have you ever read Deuteronomy? Holy fuck, there's even a passage that encourages taking women as prisoners of war and marrying them without their consent), suggesting that there should be an equal number of Christian terrorists as well. In science we're told that when you have the same stimulus, you should get the same response. So maybe there's something else that causes such a high number of Muslim terrorists (note that I'm not even sure that Muslim terrorists are in the majority, because as I mentioned before (and was completely ignored), the Tamil Tigers commit the most suicide bombings and aren't Muslim). Maybe Muslim-majority countries are just poorer than non-Muslim countries, or maybe Islam just has more "revolutionary appeal" than other religions (similar to how Marxism had revolutionary appeal for many anti-colonial nationalists in Africa, who identified as Marxists even though their beliefs weren't exactly Marxist (like the ANC in South Africa, or ZANU in Zimbabwe)). I guess a crazy conservative like Rasterturd would probably argue that Marxist thought also leads to terrorist activity based on these historical examples, but if you have half a brain, you'll know that this just isn't a cogent explanation and doesn't take into account all of the factors involved.

As I said before, while there may be a lot of terrorism committed by people who identify as Muslims, that doesn't mean that Islamic thought is an efficient condition for terrorism. Between 700-1200 AD the majority of discoveries in science, medicine and mathematics were made by Muslims, and the most egregious rights violations were committed by Christians. They were the civil ones back then. Why would it be any different now, if Islam is simply "inherently evil"? It's just not a sound explanation.

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by Orkimedes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they can have a mosque on ground zero when we can have a disney land in mecca.

...or when they let us open a Hooters restaurant within every capital city of the Muslim world.

[Harrison]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...ss_igoogle_cnn

Lol women's rights in Iran supported by their laws...ohwai-

[Straif]

Next time I catch a body I'm screaming out Allah's name, son

[joran]

how bout they can have a mosque when we have a mcdonalds in every capital city of the muslim world... o wait...

[Rasterburn]

Let's take a realistic look at the religion that some of you are defending...

Quote from a recent "Sharia law" case in Afghanistan:

"The court ruled that her nose and ears must be cut off. The act was carried out by her husband in the mountains of Oruzgan, where they left her to die."

Got it..? The court ruled this... not just some fringe area case of "bad Muslims." A fucking COURT declared that an innocent and beautiful young woman should be horribly and sadistically disfigured for life. No anesthesia, no pity, no human rights, no decency whatsoever... she was simply held down, whilst her own husband began slicing off parts of her face with a knife. I can not even imagine her agony and terror.

This is not some unusual or isolated case, either. These nasty little Sharia "courts" exist in every single Muslim-ruled nation on this planet. We can dig up thousands and thousands of examples of Muslim backwardness and brutality, by doing a simple Google search. At its core, Islam is an evil religion controlled by equally evil people. Period. That's not an opinion -- it's a tragic fact.

Let's take an even closer look. Here's just a few images of the MILLIONS of victims of Muslim law:

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...but by all means, let's be tolerant of Islam. They've certainly been tolerant of us and.... oh, wait. 9/11... right. I forgot. And the kidnapping and beheadings of non-Muslims. Forgot about them, too. Oh and the numerous suicide bombers who routinely blow civilians apart in Israel, Spain, Indonesia and elsewhere. We forgot about them, too.

Fuck tolerance. I don't tolerate a black widow spider... I squash it when I see it. I don't plead with it to be a good little spider and stop poisoning people, nor do I try to appease it. And I understand that the black widow spider can't help being nasty and potentially dangerous... but that's kind of the whole point, is it not..?

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's take a realistic look at the religion that some of you are defending...

Quote from a recent "Sharia law" case in Afghanistan:

"The court ruled that her nose and ears must be cut off. The act was carried out by her husband in the mountains of Oruzgan, where they left her to die."

Got it..? The court ruled this... not just some fringe area case of "bad Muslims." A fucking COURT declared that an innocent and beautiful young woman should be horribly and sadistically disfigured for life. No anesthesia, no pity, no human rights, no decency whatsoever... she was simply held down, whilst her own husband began slicing off parts of her face with a knife. I can not even imagine her agony and terror.

This is not some unusual or isolated case, either. These nasty little Sharia "courts" exist in every single Muslim-ruled nation on this planet. We can dig up thousands and thousands of examples of Muslim backwardness and brutality, by doing a simple Google search. At its core, Islam is an evil religion controlled by equally evil people. Period. That's not an opinion -- it's a tragic fact.

Let's take an even closer look. Here's just a few images of the MILLIONS of victims of Muslim law:

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...but by all means, let's be tolerant of Islam. They've certainly been tolerant of us and.... oh, wait. 9/11... right. I forgot. And the kidnapping and beheadings of non-Muslims. Forgot about them, too. Oh and the numerous suicide bombers who routinely blow civilians apart in Israel, Spain, Indonesia and elsewhere. We forgot about them, too.

Fuck tolerance. I don't tolerate a black widow spider... I squash it when I see it. I don't plead with it to be a good little spider and stop poisoning people, nor do I try to appease it. And I understand that the black widow spider can't help being nasty and potentially dangerous... but that's kind of the whole point, is it not..?

Some picture examples of Eurocentric-Christian brutality:

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The point is, people regardless of race, religion or creed will act out violently to those they deem "inferior" which could be anything from the color of your skin, what you are born as, or the way you think and act.

It's a dark deep smudge on our existence that we sadistically torture others for no other benefit than to see them suffer, and we've always had the drive and as I said it's a shame because not even the most aggressive of carnivores in the animal kingdom behave this way... We are a despicable class all on our own living in a world of classical music, rape and ultraviolence,