Lols TMO

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We didn't jump them.

Someone checked Fear, found it was all up and no one in zone - AE fear raid called. As we are mustering at portal, a few TMO and then GT are mustering as well.

~4 TMO and ~12ish GT decide to rush into Fear ahead of us (because fuck BDA right? TMO will do whatever they can do mess with BDA including "leading" a fear clear for GT).

Chest says fuck that and we go in a few seconds later and do what we planned to do anyways. We somehow managed to do 2 AE pulls without training their force on the other side of the zone, also.

It's not like we pulled a Taken and zoned into Fear an hour after a guild had been in there and AE'd the rest of the zone down - all 3 guilds zoned in seconds apart.

Lol at a BDA member thinking he matters

[triad]

fucking children

[Arclyte]

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[VANVEM]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Good thing there are not logs for gms to check just in case of this very thing!

THIS!

this is why TMO should be raid banned, the intentional training is a bannable offense, and should be dealt with.

BUT the Fact that a TMO officer was present, did nothing to stop/hinder/or correct the actions of their guild member is PATHETIC!. Nothing will ever change if this is not addressed.

The GM's want people to work things out on their own? FINE!

The implement a policy that makes GM intervention on punishments 10X greater if they are forced to intervene.

TMO blatantly trains 2 weeks in a row and wants to offer a guild COMPLETELY capable of pulling their own mobs a puller for a raid? Are you FUCKING STUPID?

TMO is derailing the topic because they do not want to talk about the issue that Umbrella was present and if not actively participate in the planning of, then at least guilty of promoting the train after the fact.

THAT should merit sanctions on its own. if the "Top" guild on the server has LOSERS running it, then the entire guild should pay for the actions of said officer, and that goes for every guild, you want to name an officer and follow them, then pay the price.

just as in RL leaders are responsible for the actions of their subordinates, whether or not they had previous knowledge or not.

**** props to any TMO that can "SPecifically address the issues, and not derail******

bet you cant do it

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by VANVEM [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

THIS!

this is why TMO should be raid banned, the intentional training is a bannable offense, and should be dealt with.

BUT the Fact that a TMO officer was present, did nothing to stop/hinder/or correct the actions of their guild member is PATHETIC!. Nothing will ever change if this is not addressed.

The GM's want people to work things out on their own? FINE!

The implement a policy that makes GM intervention on punishments 10X greater if they are forced to intervene.

TMO blatantly trains 2 weeks in a row and wants to offer a guild COMPLETELY capable of pulling their own mobs a puller for a raid? Are you FUCKING STUPID?

TMO is derailing the topic because they do not want to talk about the issue that Umbrella was present and if not actively participate in the planning of, then at least guilty of promoting the train after the fact.

THAT should merit sanctions on its own. if the "Top" guild on the server has LOSERS running it, then the entire guild should pay for the actions of said officer, and that goes for every guild, you want to name an officer and follow them, then pay the price.

just as in RL leaders are responsible for the actions of their subordinates, whether or not they had previous knowledge or not.

**** props to any TMO that can "SPecifically address the issues, and not derail******

bet you cant do it

You just derailed with fiction. Good read though.

[quido]

I'm offering Chest 3 million platinum in restitution for his immense suffering.

[Gotharic]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We didn't jump them.

Someone checked Fear, found it was all up and no one in zone - AE fear raid called. As we are mustering at portal, a few TMO and then GT are mustering as well.

~4 TMO and ~12ish GT decide to rush into Fear ahead of us (because fuck BDA right? TMO will do whatever they can do mess with BDA including "leading" a fear clear for GT).

Chest says fuck that and we go in a few seconds later and do what we planned to do anyways. We somehow managed to do 2 AE pulls without training their force on the other side of the zone, also.

It's not like we pulled a Taken and zoned into Fear an hour after a guild had been in there and AE'd the rest of the zone down - all 3 guilds zoned in seconds apart.

We were in the zone for 10 minutes before BDA jumped in...check the logs, just saying....

Gotharic
Guild Leader
Genocidal Tendencies

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Gotharic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We were in the zone for 10 minutes before BDA jumped in...check the logs, just saying....

10 minutes

Originally Posted by bigsykedaddy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not true, we were in there killing monkeys , fetids, spiders an hour before you guys even showed up at the portal... We have logs to prove it too

One hour

[Gotharic]

TMO was in there before GT was, I'm not sure how long TMO was in there for.

[chief]

Why is this in raid discussion? I dont see any mobs in window. Suspend dinacarl for being a moran and training bda.