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03-26-2014, 05:32 PM
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03-26-2014, 05:33 PM
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03-26-2014, 05:55 PM
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"Illusions of Grandeur" is a Magic card (which I just added to my Zedruu commander deck). "Delusions of grandeur" is an English language phase, from which the Magic card took it's name.
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03-28-2014, 06:33 AM
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03-26-2014, 06:13 PM
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The only reason Blackburrow has value as a leveling zone is because of the fangs. The exp from fangs are good enough to get you from 12-20. Why would anybody who can use the fangs (<20) not kill mobs who drop them?
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03-26-2014, 06:33 PM
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Pin,
As far as find information to be able to put in a bug report, I did plenty of the dirty work for you already. I showed earlier in the posting (and proved mathematically) how much experience gnoll fangs give now. I then found a 2001 post and did an experience comparison of then and now and found that based off that one example (and I said more is needed but you'll need to go look), the experience is 3x more now than it was then. If you can find a few more examples, you'd have a good arguement for a bug report. I didn't hand that over because I agree with you though. Like Yonec, I do not feel anyone has the right to tell someone that is playing within the rules where they can/can't hunt. I think trying to implement non-classic code is ridiculous. I did it because if the experience per fang is not classic, it should be changed. There will be times when lower level mobs drop something you need for yourself or another character. It could be bone chips for necros/SKs, quest items, tradeskill items, specific loot or even just faction from killing the mob. Get used to camps you want to yourself being packed because deep down you know you want them for the exact same reason, they either give better than average experience or loot. I'm quite sure you aren't deleting your gnoll fangs. Qeynos Hills and Everfrost are on either side of blackburrow and you can level from 1-50+ in either one of them so don't give the BS excuse that anyone is preventing you from leveling. | ||
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03-26-2014, 07:00 PM
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03-27-2014, 09:23 AM
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Thank you for the help. I never said anyone was preventing me from leveling. My original post said that I could go somewhere else or log on a different character, plainly at the end of it. To me it was the principle of the fact that I, of the appropriate level, could not get a kill because people who theoretically should have moved on, were wiping the zone to farm an item to turn in for exp because that exp was greater and easier than what they could get elsewhere.
My original post had a lot of "moral" flavor in it. It was wrong in my opinion that the farming was occurring to begin with. Taking all that you can, because you can, is a pure dick move in my opinion. That really is a moral question that can be argued until we are all blue in the face. In order to be effective here, it is clear that people want black and white evidence, as opposed to what seems morally correct to another person. I know I hate it in RL when someone else's morals are shoved down my throat. That being said, I do not want to nerf gnoll fangs completely. I just want them fixed so that they are no longer an attractive option to level with instead of actual exping once you reach a certain level. That level should probably be around 12 like other low level dungeon quests of the era. This behavior would be in line with other quests, such as the crushbone belt quest. And it would also curb slumming instead of actually encouraging it, as it does now. On a side note. I had a friend killing greens last night for the karana bandit quest. 17 sashes later at level 22, he got 2 bubbles of exp and 120+ plat for the bronze weapons from the turn in and rawhide they dropped. There are other things that can be done besides gnoll fangs for safe exp and actual profit. Quote:
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Reason: misspelled fang
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03-26-2014, 06:47 PM
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I was turning in fangs not long ago and thinking to myself there is no way they gave this much exp on live. The quest wasn't worth doing anymore at lvl 12 as I remember it. Well now you can completely skip lvl 12 with a stack of fangs or is it less? People stay here till lvl 24 farming fangs because its better exp then anything else. Path of least resistance. Especially if you're a non-solo class who doesn't want to wait 3 hours for a group or sit 20 min between kills. I recently left BB on a lvl 12 alt, remembering from my live days that this was when bb slowed way down for exp. After an hour or 2 of bandits and wisps (even including quest turn ins) I calculated that blackburrow is still like 2x faster. At lvl 16 one fang is probably more than a solo kill on a yellow con. It is a jerk move to steal green mobs from the lowbies but the reward is just as good if not better (bc greens die fast).
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03-26-2014, 07:03 PM
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I'm gonna post this in all the blackburrow posts.
I took my Iksar Necro there at lvl 4...after i trained meditate...killed gnolls till i was just a sliver away from lvl 12....got exactly 300 fangs. Upon turn in, got all of lvl 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and about 90% of lvl 20. Not too bad i guess. <Insert SweetAss Sig Here> Mrtwig | ||
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