Server Raid Rules - New and Improved

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by xorbier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would it ever occur to you that some people have to afk? Also, i don't recall 50 being in the zone. There were around 40 in the zone.

Seriously though, what's your point?

Its hilarious watching you try to downplay your failures. I can tell DA is really embarassed about their first couple days in sky, especially when they've reached the point of lying about how many people they had for a boss attempt.

[Starklen]

We forgive you for wiping to noble dojorn with 50 people and subsequently agroing sirran because you don't know how to play.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would be wrong.

This server has a placeholder that when killed spawns the PoS. You are correct that these mobs proc a root/lev effect, but the key word there is 'proc' so as long as you aren't in melee range, they don't do the effect.

The key to this whole dispute ISN'T the KITING. Everyone is getting hung up on that, but it's a red herring.

The key is that the Protector of Sky is a TRIGGERED MOB. He isn't up. He spawns based on player actions. Rogean ruled that a triggered mob belongs to the raid that triggered him. The fact that they were kiting him to prevent spawning Sirran before the other azeraks were dead is inconsequential to the ruling.

It's no different than Ixiblat Fer in Kunark. He is triggered by turning in a runed seashell to Naxot in Burning Woods. No one other than a complete asshat would think it valid to pull and kill a spawn of Ixiblat triggered by another raid force. The same thing applies to Protector of Sky.

Repeat after me: The ruling had NOTHING to do with KITING.

Like I said, I really didn't care about the bickering in the first place. Of course you don't want to spawn Sirran before killing everything, this is obvious. I merely wanted to know what version of the mob was up there since when we were testing Sky a while back he spawned after everything else was dead (ie: not tied to the death of a specific mob). The classic version had him spawning after his placeh0lder is killed (one of the 9 Azeracks). So now I know that they have since fixed his spawn, good to know. Thanks for the answer.

True, I forgot that his ability was a proc although I'm surprised that whoever was kiting never got hit once by the proc. That island is particularly bumpy and without lev its easy for a flying mob to catch up to you. I Just wanted to make sure that his ability was working.

You really should lay off the attitude man, I wasn't even addressing you. It seems like every time you post on the forums you are all angry and stuff.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, I forgot that his ability was a proc although I'm surprised that whoever was kiting never got hit once by the proc. That island is particularly bumpy and without lev its easy for a flying mob to catch up to you. I Just wanted to make sure that his ability was working.

selos.

[xorbier]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its hilarious watching you try to downplay your failures. I can tell DA is really embarassed about their first couple days in sky, especially when they've reached the point of lying about how many people they had for a boss attempt.

How many times has IB wiped on Vox?? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aarone]

Originally Posted by Itchybottom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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It's okay baby xorbier, the bunnies aren't angry anymore.

I think that this pic is more appropriate...

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We now return you to your regularly scheduled post.

[Bagzan]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Of course you don't want to spawn Sirran before killing everything, this is obvious.

Dark Ascension would like a word with you because it obviously isn't so clear to them.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Olorin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the one one time Divinity trained the temple on WI -- unfortunately I dont have fraps installed which seems to be the only thing that counts ...

I know what you are talking about, and we still aren't in agreement as to what happened. At the time the temple was pulled, we had an enchanter and rogue headed to our camp from the zone in. Lets say he did in fact agro the temple, he would have been killed instantly and the mobs would have pathed back. Truth is both people made it to our camp with 100% health and no adds on them, how would that have happened? I don't care what guild we are up against, we aren't going to flat out train you just for the sake of doing it.

If an enchanter and rogue were able to grab the temple, train your camp and make it back to ours without taking a single point of damage then they are the best trainers on the server.

[guineapig]

That....
and there is zero precedent for our guild ever doing something like that on a raid.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by xorbier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many times has IB wiped on Vox?? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems we were both wrong about how many members you guys had in sky, it wasnt 50, nor 40, but... 8!

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