Congratulations Lord Bob

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pardon, but the issue I have is that I don't like it when one guild or group of guilds shits on another guild. I didn't like it when TMO did it to FE/BDA/everyone else, and I don't like it now.

I'm speaking my mind in this particular instance because I find it unfair that Doljon is getting called out for not acquiescing to the play-style of guilds like bda, taken, and ag, when their entire argument during these raid talks is to not force play-styles on others.

BDA/Taken/AG/etc didn't want to be forced into competing with TMO/FE/IB because they were unable or unwilling to do so. Why is Doljon suddenly the exception, just because they won't conform to the more casual play style?

I never once defended Doljon's actions in sky outlined in this thread. I didn't even speak to them.

I really hate RNF, and the only reason I even read this thread is because 1) I can't turn RNF off (opted out...multiple times...but it never goes away) and 2) the GM intervention in this discussion.

Derubael, the entire reason why I liked (and fought for, against the petitions of many) the 1 1 1 plan is it allowed for both diverging gameplay sets equal footing, and anyone between the ability to do what they wanted.

Lord bob isn't forced to do anything they don't want to do, period. There is no GM enforced play nice rotation in any way, it is entirely a player construct so that:

1) The smaller guilds have a shot at the mobs that they can kill but would otherwise be blocked off from them

and

2) Individuals and guilds that had no want to track for hours on end for even a chance at engaging a mob didn't have to against their personal desires

This is the entire point of this argument - I do not want to stop Lord Bob (actually I hope this title isn't inflammatory to you guys, I honestly have no idea how to spell this name and would have to look it up every time, if it is inflammatory to you I would be happy to look it up and type it out) from playing the way they want to play the game, but that's the entire point of the distinction between "Class C" and "Class R". Class R is restricted for a reason - we are accepting restricted mob access because we do not have an interest in competing the way the competitive class wishes to.

I have not talked to Lord Bob, so I do not know their exact reasoning for things, but I would be more than happy to work with the guilds and make a spot with them in

1) the sky rotation

as well as

2) the raid mob rotation

but only if they wanted to. I will not force them into a style of play they don't want to be into, but they can do what they want to incentivise competition in the competition class, hence the name of the entire class.

That being said if they choose to stay in Class R and purposefully hinder the restricted and play nice atmosphere in the name of competition this seems entirely contradictory from the entire point of the 1 1 1 plan, because there's an entire class dedicated towards competition that do not want to play nice.

What I'm most concerned about is the GM intervention and assumptions of information displayed in this thread as if every class R guild felt like shitting on Lord Bob from the start, which I can assure you is entirely incorrect and a misguided assumption.

[Man0warr]

It's pretty clear by Derken's posts that they will take whichever side allows for the most conflict.

[Pringles]

Shouldnt this violate the play nice policy instituted by GMs and result in raid suspensions? (sorry im not reading 11 pages to find out - only the OP)

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shouldnt this violate the play nice policy instituted by GMs and result in raid suspensions? (sorry im not reading 11 pages to find out - only the OP)

lol

[Raavak]

I have a great idea. How about BDA start playing nice with people and treating them fairly instead of trying to make the whole server play how you want them to play or threaten/berate/flame/blacklist them?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a great idea. How about BDA start playing nice with people and treating them fairly instead of trying to make the whole server play how you want them to play or threaten/berate/flame/blacklist them?

You mean like TMO forced everyone to play for the past 18+ months?

Also, there will be no blacklisting by BDA, period. Additionally, we tried to play nice with Dolj as evidenced by at least 3 other BDA members that posted in this thread, they don't give a fuck.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a great idea. How about BDA start playing nice with people and treating them fairly instead of trying to make the whole server play how you want them to play or threaten/berate/flame/blacklist them?

The A-Team wants to play nice with everyone. But it has to go both ways.

[quido]

If majority ruled on everything we'd have full repops every day!

[Miser]

Love the fact that these multi-year old guilds are talking so much shit about how bad a guild that is a few months old is. Not to mention the fact that beyond the small core of awesome people, they're trying to raid with the dregs of the fuckin' server.

It used to blow my mind that some of you guys are unaware of your own hypocrisy, but nowadays nothing surprises me here.

[Yaolin]

Miser.... you don't have your toon names or guild posted anywhere on your forum account... good show sir... good show.... Men men men men men......