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12-23-2013, 04:38 PM
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This server must be littered with Obama supporters. No one ever wants to address a question asked or provide any type of factual evidence supporting their claims to the "TMO is Scum."
Yes, some people cheated. No, the guild didn't know about it as a whole. The cheaters were punished, as if they would have been had they been in any other guild, and the game goes on. Now, TMO still exists and will continue to raid with the blessing of the CSR staff. Should we be more consciences of others? probably so, and I'm still a firm believer that even before this announcement, TMO was taking small steps to allowing others to raid with us, and even win loots. However, we put a lot of time and effort into catching these mobs. But ya know what? when other guilds put in time and effort, they take targets from us, as simple as that. BDA - grats 6+ Vox kills in a row recently even when TMO tracked and contested you. Why? You gave it a dedicated effort. Taken - Grats 5+ Inny kills in a row recently even when TMO tracked and contested you. Why? You gave it a dedicated effort. No one from TMO is starting rants that we lost two targets so often that we care about (and yes, we still have members who need these targets.) The 4th/5th alt is just ignorant speak. Again, yes I acknowledge that often times loot goes to alts, but it's only when the items we need for mains don't drop. Until you people know what you're talking about, and present facts, it's all a ridiculous to discuss. I'm in favor of some reform, but not hand outs. This is a game, and we play it a lot and we play it well, it's as simple as that. It's not personal.
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12-23-2013, 04:45 PM
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12-23-2013, 04:54 PM
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FE/IB raid suspensions under Sirken rule = 1 TMO specific mob raid suspensions under Sirken rule = 0 FE/IB specific mob raid suspensions under Sirken rule = 1+(think 3) Tell me more hatelores
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12-23-2013, 04:55 PM
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12-23-2013, 05:11 PM
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Again this is a result of the fucked up way the server has handled things..... FE/IB is told time and again that its not that TMO is doing this the right way, theres just no proof they are doing it wrong..... TMO has dozens of fraps of every encounter thats contested or not, from 20 different angles so if something happens on accident then they can see it and spin it as intentional..... I for one am not willing to spend terrabytes of storage to make these stupid videos. i usually only am willing to turn on fraps of something after a 3rd or 4th offense in a row (i.e. tortue training VS pit and FDing on me soloing there, nuit DAing and bring prot/tola to ledge when FE/IB has higher numbers than tmo, Sericx being himself etc etc) As far as i know, any time FE/IB has had a suspensions it was not from malicious intent, and we happily took the suspensions and learned from the mistake. If it was intentional i would vote to have them removed from the guild (i believe in my year in the guild the only time there was an intentional train was by lucabrazi in trak's lair ..... he lost alot of support after that and then soon left the guild and then server). TMO cannot claim this same thing as there are videos (which have been told by some gms are not evidence, and then by others that its the only evidence accepted) of tmo repeatedly doing shit over and over and over in the matter of minutes. personally i would be happier that if the suspension hammer came down to have more transparency in the situation (i.e. if the reason is fraps, post the fraps in a forum post with a small reason for the decision.... leave it at that and not spend 3 days arguing back and forth with people and reducing the punishment (which again FE/IB has had the punishments reduced, but never removed..... and tmo can only claim they have no punishments because they had their punishments completely removed after arguing for a few days (example: the threat of perma bans for "poofing" .... videos of half a dozen of tmo doing it and several got bans for it that were lifted in a couple days) This whole recent duping/rmt scandal is not the first time TMO has had a ban hammer hit them.... just the first time they havnt been able to talk their way out of it | |||
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