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Old 07-30-2010, 11:32 PM
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while I agree with this what this post says regarding AFKers, I still think it's fair for a low level of an evil race to be in the tunnel when not AFK (just doing a trade presumably).
By "fair" what are you implying, that they're entitled to it? If so, I don't understand where this sense of entitlement (or "expectation of safety" if you prefer that phrase) comes from? But you know what? For the sake of concession I'll play along and say that, sure, everyone's entitled to bliss once inside that sanctuary known as EC tunnel.

That still leaves us with a glaring issue: people found guilty of training are being absolutely crucified, not just by players but by idiots like Cyrius who need to run around with a cape pretending to be the EC Hero. It's amazing to see people here gasping and shrieking "OMG! What kind of sicko intentionally trains other people!?!?!", all the while calling for permanent bans if not the maiming and torturing of the trainer's parents.

Meanwhile, the ills which are quite capable of destroying the integrity of the server — the duping, the preferential treatment, the Devs/GMs being diligent in punishing one person/guild's sins while conveniently turning a blind eye to others — just don't seem to stir up the same passion. Never mind the fact that some players have only been here 2-3 weeks yet somehow have 1 million plat to spread around their alts. Nope, nothing fishy there. Never mind the fact that threads about Wrathful Inquisition's previous exploits in Shards of Dalaya (emphasis on exploit) appear and then get deleted immediately, despite a P99 Dev being its leader. Nope, nothing to see there. But hey! We MUST babysit the EC tunnel, that's pri1 folks!

Face it, folks. The reason players are complaining about training, and the reason the GMs/Devs are so eager to address it, is because it's low-hanging fruit. It's easy. It's a very visible problem, and it's very evident when the training stops. The GMs pat themselves on the back for a job well done, the players think the world's a happy place. Meanwhile, the real issues will slowly continue to rot things out from the inside.

Oh, I forgot... it's all free so we're all just supposed to shut up and worship the Devs and marvel at how they've modified the code of something which emulated other people's work. Let me go find my prayer rug.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:34 PM
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Woo hoo post #128. What were we talking about?
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:39 PM
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Woo hoo post #128. What were we talking about?
Cheese.
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:22 PM
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Cheese.
With ample Whine.
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:50 PM
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:39 PM
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Doable?
Trainer A aggros Guard/Rinna/Merchants.
Trainer A runs to tunnel/random evil aligned character.
Trainer A dies.
Guard/Rinna/Merchants warp back to spawn spots.
Total deaths: 1
Happy Campers: ##

Once hatelist is empty they warp to their huts/spawn spots.
Would prevent collateral damage but still allow the functionality of the guards to aggro onto evil characters that run too close to them.
Just beware who you buff because aggro would transfer that way...
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:40 PM
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sit outside tunnel?
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:46 PM
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^ Not only doable, it's been done.

... in EQ2.

I've skimmed most of the posts in this thread and can't stop shaking my head. Presumably hundreds of people were anxious to get into P99 because they were sick of MMOs with safety rails. Now we have this thread where people playing evil toons are complaining because they're having trouble going AFK in a non-evil zone.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:21 PM
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^ Not only doable, it's been done.

... in EQ2.

I've skimmed most of the posts in this thread and can't stop shaking my head. Presumably hundreds of people were anxious to get into P99 because they were sick of MMOs with safety rails. Now we have this thread where people playing evil toons are complaining because they're having trouble going AFK in a non-evil zone.
stupid. sorry man. theyre not complaining about going afk in a non evil zone, they are complaining about people using game mechanics to train them.

if you want to play that shit go to a pvp server where you can be a jerk and people can be a jerk back to you. its not fair for someone to make a 1 level char just to kill heaps of people with no chance of repercussions.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:32 PM
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Lol every single time im on an alt in EC a Train is inc. Everytime.
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