Nocturne

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please do elaborate! It will be either amusing or informative [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you claim that things evolve by some how randomly mutating and yet here we have evidence that mutations aren't a good thing and that they aren't even passed onto future generations. Show me an example of a beneficial mutation that gets passed along to future generations.

After reading this . . . I wonder if you are trolling us. No one is claiming that all mutations are beneficial. Most mutations are bad. The vast majority of mutations are not passed on because the organism with said mutation is unfit for survival (kind of like most of the posters in RnF). This is why evolution is a slow process, and why your treasured "macroevolution" does not occur on historical time scales.

[Zadrian]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you claim that things evolve by some how randomly mutating and yet here we have evidence that mutations aren't a good thing and that they aren't even passed onto future generations. Show me an example of a beneficial mutation that gets passed along to future generations.

Hammerhead sharks.

[Razdeline]

And here is the twist.

Technology bridges the gap between evolution and survival, in such; The evolutionary cesspool of what gets weeded out through changes in our environment does not go away.

There are more Timmies because food is so easily accessible, people run their ac/heaters all day and do not die, water is everywhere, Obamacare etc. Evolution is not key for survival anymore.

If anything, since we are such a large pack of rats (on the Earth) the only possible way we can utilize evolution for survival is to evolve in such a way that deseases do not affect us.

But I don't think that will happen being that Virus/Bacteria are mutating faster in a way that we can not find cures quicker than their evolutionary process.

[Hasbinbad]

The vast majority of mutations are neither harmful nor beneficial.

There is also a reason changes in mitochondrial DNA are not herited. You should probably understand that before you talk about it.

[Black Jesus]

DNA is just a theory

[Kagatob]

Thread is still somehow more amusing than it is headache inducing. It would be less headache inducing if the bible thumpers could put up at least one compelling stance though. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Razdeline]

So based off my last post, do we technically "devolve" since technology is keeping the "Bad" mutations from dying out?

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Razdeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So based off my last post, do we technically "devolve" since technology is keeping the "Bad" mutations from dying out?

Yes and no, in the future once genetic engineering becomes an everyday thing human society will be a 2-cast system, those who can who afford genetic engineering, and the labor force which is everyone else, people with down syndrome, gypsies, hippies, hillbillies, and the many other types of genetically defective people.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes and no, in the future once genetic engineering becomes an everyday thing human society will be a 2-cast system, those who can who afford genetic engineering, and the labor force which is everyone else, people with down syndrome, gypsies, hippies, hillbillies, and the many other types of genetically defective people.

Nazi 2.0 bullshit. This is why people have objections to ideas that encourage this type of thinking. This is the same thinking Charles Galton Darwin wrote about in "The Next Million Years" and influenced ideas like Nazism. Read the words of James Watson and you get an idea of why geneticist are so keen on this garbage and why it is being funded and forced on people.