Svenn ninja loots a NoS, writes a thread about it.

[Niceboots]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you are apparently too lazy to actually look up the rules yourself:



Let me repeat the important part:



An FD necro is not a "presence." If that was the case, I could bring a level 1 rogue down to frenzy and just sit there 24/7 telling everyone they have to leave because I'm camping the frenzy with my "presence." If you're not killing any mobs in the crypt for over an hour, you're not camping crypt.

The most interesting aspect of this whole argument is that the group who wiped in crypt was Full Circle. A couple weeks ago, I grouped with some Full Circle people at crypt. I spent over 16 hours and didn't win anything besides a level 60 cleric spell, which I gave to the cleric in the group (from Full Circle). A couple days later I was in crypt again. We went outside for maybe 5-10 minutes to bring someone else in, and Full Circle rushes straight into crypt from NG and claims that since we left for 5 minutes they now owned the camp. I didn't feel like arguing with them, but I found it interesting that the very cleric who I graciously donated a valuable spell to just days before was now trying to rule lawyer his way into a camp that I already had claim to. And now this shit comes up to make them look even worse.

So in summation, let me just try to get Full Circle's version of camp rules straight:

If you are in Full Circle, you get to claim any camp you want as soon as anyone physically leaves for more than a couple seconds.

If you are in Full Circle and you wipe at a camp, you still have claim to the camp no matter how long it takes you to recover, even if it takes hours.

If you are not in Full Circle, a GM will be petitioned to make weirdo calls against you that directly conflict with the server rules that are clearly printed in black and white on these very forums.

Did I get that right?

I think I might have been in that group as well? I think crypt is Full Circle's new raid target or something. Had a few groups lose an enchanter or cleric over the past few weeks because their "guild needed them". They would then go and wipe at crypt and ask for a cr. Even had them train us at NG with crypt mobs a few times.

I don't really understand how you can wipe to crypt with a full group that includes cc but yeah. Definitely seems weird with the GM ruling for the group without a presence in crypt for almost 2 hours.

Nothing against Full Circle though, never really had a problem with anyone from that guild and they seem to be nothing but nice. Just some odd crypt obsession over the past month.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Niceboots [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I might have been in that group as well? I think crypt is Full Circle's new raid target or something. Had a few groups lose an enchanter or cleric over the past few weeks because their "guild needed them". They would then go and wipe at crypt and ask for a cr. Even had them train us at NG with crypt mobs a few times.

I don't really understand how you can wipe to crypt with a full group that includes cc but yeah. Definitely seems weird with the GM ruling for the group without a presence in crypt for almost 2 hours.

Nothing against Full Circle though, never really had a problem with anyone from that guild and they seem to be nothing but nice. Just some odd crypt obsession over the past month.

The group was there the whole time.... They were clearing mobs there. Everything was addressed in this thread and even members of the 2nd group said "The necro was there with a charmed mob killing". There was never a gap of them gone from their camp for an extended period of time. A rogue tried to steal the camp assuming everyone died by stalling the rogue getting a rez.

I have been in crypt a lot lately myself. I haven't seen many wipes 1 or 2 over the last week or so. I imagine they are like anyone else who does crypt they want Hieros,Spells(Especially Shammy spells) and JBBs. They are all fetching a big profit right now. I mean that is why I want to do crypt as much as possible. If I was in an NG group and got offered a crypt group I'd leave for it. No offense to an NG group. Crypt is a camp that most people want. As evident by the drama this time. Although I can't comment for a guild I am not in.... IF a guildie of mine was in crypt and I was anywhere but king camp... I'd trade up for crypt if asked.

[Alawen]

I wear a fingerbone hoop. There were no mysterious third parties lurking invisible.

The rogue was not back until the entire area had been cleared down to and cleared through once. The rogue was absent from the area for at least the first half hour. The necro was alone, and not in the crypt proper, but rather in the tunnels between crypt and emperor until our group had cleared the path and he could safely return to the crypt.

If Signal is not Mantic, which I suspect he is, all of this is hearsay on his part. His story certainly does not match the story he told to Zade. He claimed to Zade that his entire group was recovered and ready to fight when he put in the petition. This is absolutely untrue.

The camp was in full spawn and the only live player was a necromancer. The rest were dead inside the locked emperor room. I had no previous knowledge of the Full Circle group interacting with Powahfull before we arrived, but the Full Circle told lies to a GM in order to get back a camp when they wiped and took over an hour and a half to recover.

[Alawen]

Immediately after we left the crypt, the necro logged and other members of Full Circle joined the group. Basically, they claimed the camp through a period of all being dead and rebuilding the group with new members that spanned 100 minutes.

[Tuljin]

PLEASE p99 stop paying over 50k for a hiero cloak! Grimey motherfuckers on this server! Someone in EC wanted 75k for a hiero cloak the other day - how is a hiero 75k and a fungi 85k? Makes no sense. This is the reason we have scrub groups leapfrogging, wiping, and petitioning for the stupid ass crypt camp!

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Immediately after we left the crypt, the necro logged and other members of Full Circle joined the group. Basically, they claimed the camp through a period of all being dead and rebuilding the group with new members that spanned 100 minutes.

Lies.... The whole group was the same before and after. They dragged another corpse of a guildie of theirs later to rez after they had been down there. You lost this argument.. No matter how much spin and BS you try to add to it. You guys tried to steal a camp that was camped and got told to leave.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wear a fingerbone hoop. There were no mysterious third parties lurking invisible.

The rogue was not back until the entire area had been cleared down to and cleared through once. The rogue was absent from the area for at least the first half hour. The necro was alone, and not in the crypt proper, but rather in the tunnels between crypt and emperor until our group had cleared the path and he could safely return to the crypt.

If Signal is not Mantic, which I suspect he is, all of this is hearsay on his part. His story certainly does not match the story he told to Zade. He claimed to Zade that his entire group was recovered and ready to fight when he put in the petition. This is absolutely untrue.

The camp was in full spawn and the only live player was a necromancer. The rest were dead inside the locked emperor room. I had no previous knowledge of the Full Circle group interacting with Powahfull before we arrived, but the Full Circle told lies to a GM in order to get back a camp when they wiped and took over an hour and a half to recover.

Also I was there the whole time. I wasn't in their group. The rogue was there at the same time you guys were. Stop the stupidity and lies to defend you trying to steal a camp.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also I was there the whole time. I wasn't in their group. The rogue was there at the same time you guys were. Stop the stupidity and lies to defend you trying to steal a camp.

I also am not the necro. The necro was in the group from the time I got there till the time I left. Which was about 20 minutes after they recovered. I stayed that long just to make sure it was known they were there and you guys tried to steal it.

[Signal]

It is funny though how much people will lie to defend their shitty actions. They of course are never in the wrong.... It is always the other persons fault for being in a camp they wanted.... SO they had every right to try to overrun them. LOL done with this thread I think anyone reading it now sees the douchebags you guys are and can clearly see this was an attempt at stealing a camp that was camped. Your spin didn't work. Peace.

[Tuljin]

Bullshit - - also funny that this isn't the first time someone has had a GM intervention over crypt camp. If you really want the camp /d and figure out who should really be there instead of whining to the GMs - a full group wipe at crypt is pretty pathetic - esp INSIDE the locked door - smh