TMO wipes on Trak, FE logs in and kills

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually FE/TMO mirror each other very well.

1. Uberguild [TR/TMO] dominates the raiding scene, is faster at mobilization etc and has gotten 90% of all boss mobs for months

2. Hungrier players [TMO/FE] decide those P1999 pixels are worth getting up at 3AM and start tracking and batphoning

3. Uberguild still gets everything

4. New guild zerg recruits everyone with a pulse, bringing 60-80 players to raids

5. Uberguild laughs at zerg guild, but meanwhile their attendance drops a bit since after all they are mostly farming for alts at this point6. New guild begins to figure things out and gets some kills (because after all EQ raiding is not hard; you can't really be that much more skilled than the next guy, unless you are in the A-Team).

7. Old guild finally collapses as people just don't care enough to log in any more, complains about corrupt GM and RMTs out to Eqmac.

8. New guild prunes away some of the worse players in their zerg, gears everyone up, and laughs at the casual guilds.

9. See step 1.

Of course 7-9 have not happened to TMO yet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how people say we zerg shit down, but we've killed and made attempts at mobs with much less than 60-80 people historically speaking...

Might wanna get your facts checked out.

Reading comprehension fail.

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by dragonfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is true

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think many in FE here are just fiesty because FE has been the underdog and has been shit on by TMO for the past few months. So not a big fan and now that we're turning the tide you're right, we do require the warm bodies to kill and most all encounters are rush-to-kill. I guess the difference in what you're saying is zerg is a undefined # of players in that rush-to-kill. FE has killed mobs w/ a minimal raid force before (gg 4am pop's) and so has TMO. But both have the member base now to get more than whats necessary to kill a mob. We still despise TMO as a guild and we also dislike the current culture on the server. So by your steps you would put us at step 6. But IF we follow 7 and 8 is another story. We would have to be greedy a-holes once TMO is gone to try to muscle out every other lower guild. I am pretty confident once TMO is gone there will be some talks about how to make the server better with the guilds as we already have tried to do in the past.

Objection. The counsel is speculating. He cant possible predict the future "if" (and thats a big "if") FE were to become the top guild on the server

[Servellious]

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P.S. I have to say I'm a little surprised you guys are so feisty over what is basically a favorable comparison to you[/QUOTE]

its because people like you and alawen who act as arm chair managers on RNF but are part of nothing you speak for, like p99 raiding. Spare me stories about your past, sound like a fat old high school qb bragging about what was done 15 years ago.

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. I have to say I'm a little surprised you guys are so feisty over what is basically a favorable comparison to you

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can't really be that much more skilled than the next guy, unless you are in the A-Team).

I'm feisty over the high horse you sit atop. You're such a big deal, aren't you? Lol.

Everyone needs to sleep at night though, so its ok. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Huge reading comprehension fail there Sloan.

It's almost as if Sloan and his guild are full of people who are actually stupid.

The zerg has to pretend there is something special about them. Maintaining morale and the illusion that every member has a chance to get gear is paramount for continuing to draw those huge numbers.

My perspective is that there is simply not enough loot to keep 200 people consistently poopsocking. Whichever guild does not get a lion's share of loot will see attendance drop dramatically and become the de facto #2 guild or even fade completely. The victor will restrict recruiting to a lower level and atrophy numbers to a more manageable level until a challenger appears. The current time demands are unsustainable for either guild.

The pretense by FE of sharing spawns with other guilds will fade. Members show up for loot and will not tolerate giving that loot away.

Same old same old.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm feisty over the high horse you sit atop. You're such a big deal, aren't you? Lol.

Everyone needs to sleep at night though, so its ok. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have never seen you make a comment that was not trite, witless, and borderline illiterate.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting a clean engage and mobilization are the challenging aspects of raiding here, NOT killing shit.

This is the main problem on the server.

Shit is just not hard enough because a lot of stuff still needs to addressed.

Fix difficulty.

Punish players for training on raid encounters (deliberate or not).

Until issues are resolved the FTE garbage that goes on here will never cease.

[arsenalpow]

FE is a zerg guild but there's nothing wrong with that. If the goal is to take targets from TMO then you have to zerg it up - fight fire with fire. TMO pulls 40 at 4am then FE needs to be able to do the same. The best way to facilitate that is to mass invite. If your batphone can pull 18-24 at any time of the day to go along with the 18-24 already in game you should always have the ability to compete for targets.

TMO/FE what is a fair yield from a batphone during off hours? Like 20% of the roster?

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Veliouslegend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Accurate A+ would read again

i've seen 2 60+ FE members at 2 raid encounters since I joined. The last CT which was a guild first solo kill and I cant' recall the other.

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO/FE what is a fair yield from a batphone during off hours? Like 20% of the roster?

Nope, actually. The same people generally show up to our raids and the last 10-15 people can change from raid to raid. Our core raid group is strong and you see a lot of the same faces every raid, regardless of hours - we have this thing called dedication. I know people in other guilds (not naming any) don't have that level of dedication so would like to discredit us. It doesn't bother me though, its just simple human nature.

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