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Old 01-18-2024, 11:05 AM
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Again, I am not sure why you keep bringing up leveling. Everybody already agrees Regen is better while leveling, including myself. Min/Max is not about the fastest way to level. Claiming FSI provides no bonus while leveling is also silly. It isn't like FSI turns on at 60 lol.

I am talking about the best Min/Max racial, which looks at which racial is best at level 60 with Torpor and good gear. FSI is the best racial trait in this scenario. Thus far you haven't shown anything that disproves this.
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Old 01-18-2024, 11:23 AM
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Old 01-18-2024, 03:50 PM
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… you’re the one who is defining a very narrow category of dragons in an mmo as min max.

It’s a mmo - solo has nothing to do with min max.
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… you’re the one who is defining a very narrow category of dragons in an mmo as min max.

It’s a mmo - solo has nothing to do with min max.
Incorrect. You have nothing to back up this claim either. I never said Min/Max is about killing WW Dragons.

I did not create the definition of Min/Max for games primarily focused on acquiring items and playing an endgame to acquire endgame items.

There are people who are changing the definition of Min/Max to fit their own arguments for sure. Please go and talk to them if you think it's a problem. I am using the correct and normal definition of Min/Max already. This definition is which race/class combination is the strongest in the endgame. In the case of Shamans, Ogre Shamans are the Min/Max option.
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Simply saying random things is not an argument. Sorry you don't got.
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Old 01-18-2024, 05:07 PM
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I enjoy reading your posts and even viewing some of your videos.

I must ask, if soloing ww dragons isn’t to do with minmax then why have you spent thousands of hours between videos of soloing ww dragons, maths and general forum posting to support your arguments that fsi is min max?
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I enjoy reading your posts and even viewing some of your videos.
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I must ask, if soloing ww dragons isn’t to do with minmax then why have you spent thousands of hours between videos of soloing ww dragons, maths and general forum posting to support your arguments that fsi is min max?
I could easily retort with another question: "Why do multiple forum users spend thousands of hours trolling threads and providing false information they clearly have no evidence for?" To me that is the bigger question.

I make videos showing examples of how the game works, to support my arguments. Soloing WW Dragons is a good example of what a long face tanking fight looks like on a Torpor Shaman. The reason why long fights are useful evidence is because it "Steel Mans" Iksar/Troll Regeneration. There is nothing special about WW Dragons in terms of Min/Maxing. It is literally just an example fight, which people have tried to twist into me being "obsessed" with them. I don't have time to create videos on every single fight a Shaman could possibly do.

If I wanted to claim Iksar/Troll Regeneration is barely used at level 60 in a lazy way, I could easily just post videos of 2-3 minute fights. You would only get 160-240 HP back per fight in that case from Iksar/Troll Regeneration. This is 1/5th of a Torpor, and negligible at best.

Instead I show the strongest position for Iksar/Troll Regeneration, which are long fights, and then explain why FSI is still better from a Min/Max perspective.

I just want people to get the correct information on the game. I am not sure why that is such a problem for people.
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