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Old 05-24-2023, 10:15 AM
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Yes, and for a while it was looking like maybe NATO wasn't needed anymore.

Putin fixed that for us. NATO is larger that it's ever been because of him, and Putin now has a larger border with NATO than ever before. Good going you beady-eyed inbred-looking commie-wannabe.
You're forgetting Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria ect

Stop falling into the next Iraq War trap

They are just interchanging Putin with Saddam Hussein or whatever boogeyman they need to push the latest war hth
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Old 05-24-2023, 11:33 AM
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You're forgetting Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria ect

Stop falling into the next Iraq War trap

They are just interchanging Putin with Saddam Hussein or whatever boogeyman they need to push the latest war hth
The difference is the American people seem to genuinely care about the Ukrainians. We tend to not give a damn about people in the Middle East.

I'm hoping Putin makes a wrong move and attacks a NATO country. I really am. Russia needs a severe ass-kicking and Putin needs to go. Can't let him remain in power and can't let Russia continue to take territory whenever they want because people fear war. Can't let China see that we would be willing to bend over and let them take what they want too in order to secure "peace" or they'll move on Taiwan.

Or maybe you don't see what's truly at stake here. What this proxy war with Russia is really about.
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Old 05-23-2023, 10:32 AM
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I'd love to blame this on Biden being weak and senile but it's not the case

This was intentional and mountains of our money went into getting hundreds of thousands of ppl killed/destroying a country instead of helping less fortunate and forgotten people struggling

Does the Ukraine virtue signaling make you sick yet? Now do you see why many of us are sick of globohobo?
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Old 05-23-2023, 11:08 AM
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I'd love to blame this on Biden being weak and senile but it's not the case

This was intentional and mountains of our money went into getting hundreds of thousands of ppl killed/destroying a country instead of helping less fortunate and forgotten people struggling

Does the Ukraine virtue signaling make you sick yet? Now do you see why many of us are sick of globohobo?
Unfortunate truth: That money was never going to the less fortunate and forgotten.
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Old 05-23-2023, 02:01 PM
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I'd love to blame this on Biden being weak and senile but it's not the case

This was intentional and mountains of our money went into getting hundreds of thousands of ppl killed/destroying a country instead of helping less fortunate and forgotten people struggling

Does the Ukraine virtue signaling make you sick yet? Now do you see why many of us are sick of globohobo?
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I am on the side of Peace

NATO's real purpose ended with the fall of the Soviet Union. Why the need to expand if The Cold War was over? Oh that's right. You need to keep the ponzi scheme of selling arms and weapons to countries in endless conflicts to keep the cash flow streaming into your coffers

Cold War over? Simple solution. Create a new one and you fell for it.

NATO made agreements with Russia going back 30 years that they would not expand.

Robert Gates has admitted this. Do you know who he is? He served under both Bush and Obama and said that NATO's aggressive expansion was a bad idea and clear overreach.

They've broken promise after promise. Seriously, when are you idiots going to wake up. You're falling into another Iraq War trap. These massive military budgets need endless conflict and perpetual wars.

We've been at war non stop since 9/11. Hello? Wake up

Who do you think it profiting? The same goons that goaded countries like Georgia and Ukraine into conflict with Russia



Nah it's just a word that means he's a globalist puppet touring the world in a sweater with his hand out. He's already embezzled hundreds of millions so he's getting PAID while the expendable people of Ukraine have their entire country blown to bits
Russia fucking sucks, they are our enemy, they interfere in our elections, our culture, and they launch cyberattacks on us. They fund our enemies, put bounties on US soldiers, ally with our other more dangerous rivals, and are just generally a rotten shitstain on the world. It's worth every fucking penny to put Russian bodies in the ground, especially without exposing US troops directly.

If we get to break off a large piece of the former Russian sphere in Ukraine, and add it to our sphere of influence, all the better.

I would love it if we would stop spending all our money on the military and go back to some form of isolationism, sticking to our own hemisphere, and even to find a way to resolve the Taiwan issue peacefully. But the fact of the matter is, that's not going to happen. The US constitution and our political system in general are too deeply flawed for meaningful reform, we don't really have control over our own government or the power to draw down our outrageous military. So we might as well use it intelligently, and arming Ukraine is quite possibly the single greatest and most efficient opportunity to badly fuck over a major, hated geopolitical rival in our history as a country. Additionally, the unfortunate reality of the modern global economy is that our access to the natural resources that fuel our economy depends on our ability to swing our dick, and retreating into timid isolationism would have tremendous long term negative effects on our economy and standard of living, as China and other rivals swing their dicks to secure resources for themselves.

Bending over and letting Putin conquer Ukraine would have shown China that we have no resolve and no capability to defend our sphere of influence. Instead, we have put the scare into China to an incredible degree, demonstrating the power of our intelligence network, Western resolve to weather painful embargoes, and our several generation old weapons, and we have resurrected a crumbling alliance in NATO that is vital as a counterbalance to China. Let's put it this way; I don't want to tangle with China, but if we're going to, we really need NATO to be solid and as strong as possible.

Trump, and by extension all his MAGA fanboys, are directly working against the strategic interests of the United States by trying to weaken NATO and bend over for Putin.
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Old 05-23-2023, 02:08 PM
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Russia fucking sucks, they are our enemy, they interfere in our elections, our culture, and they launch cyberattacks on us. They fund our enemies, put bounties on US soldiers, ally with our other more dangerous rivals, and are just generally a rotten shitstain on the world. It's worth every fucking penny to put Russian bodies in the ground, especially without exposing US troops directly.

If we get to break off a large piece of the former Russian sphere in Ukraine, and add it to our sphere of influence, all the better.

I would love it if we would stop spending all our money on the military and go back to some form of isolationism, sticking to our own hemisphere, and even to find a way to resolve the Taiwan issue peacefully. But the fact of the matter is, that's not going to happen. The US constitution and our political system in general are too deeply flawed for meaningful reform, we don't really have control over our own government or the power to draw down our outrageous military. So we might as well use it intelligently, and arming Ukraine is quite possibly the single greatest and most efficient opportunity to badly fuck over a major, hated geopolitical rival in our history as a country. Additionally, the unfortunate reality of the modern global economy is that our access to the natural resources that fuel our economy depends on our ability to swing our dick, and retreating into timid isolationism would have tremendous long term negative effects on our economy and standard of living, as China and other rivals swing their dicks to secure resources for themselves.

Bending over and letting Putin conquer Ukraine would have shown China that we have no resolve and no capability to defend our sphere of influence. Instead, we have put the scare into China to an incredible degree, demonstrating the power of our intelligence network, Western resolve to weather painful embargoes, and our several generation old weapons, and we have resurrected a crumbling alliance in NATO that is vital as a counterbalance to China. Let's put it this way; I don't want to tangle with China, but if we're going to, we really need NATO to be solid and as strong as possible.

Trump, and by extension all his MAGA fanboys, are directly working against the strategic interests of the United States by trying to weaken NATO and bend over for Putin.
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Old 05-23-2023, 02:30 PM
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Old 05-23-2023, 03:38 PM
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You goofballs are great for a laugh, gotta give you that

One of the mongoloids suggested Russia interfered in our election again, after it has been thoroughly proven that's something that was made up by the Clinton campaign then peddled by the media and deep state traitor scum like John McCain

Pure comedy
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Old 05-23-2023, 03:53 PM
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You goofballs are great for a laugh, gotta give you that

One of the mongoloids suggested Russia interfered in our election again, after it has been thoroughly proven that's something that was made up by the Clinton campaign then peddled by the media and deep state traitor scum like John McCain

Pure comedy
No direct collusion was found between Trump and Russia, but that's not what I'm talking about. I know you have a tenuous grasp on reality even on a good day, but Russia hacked the DNC AND the GOP, and released the Democrats' side of the information at a pivotal moment that influenced the 2016 election. Their social media disinformation and fake news campaign on facebook and other sites leading up to 2016 was also instrumental in influencing the election.

And today, their Republican operatives are working as hard as they can to push us off a debt cliff, further weakening our global standing. So you'll have to understand that this isn't business as usual Republican vs Democrat, this is patriot versus literal traitors, undermining our ability to capitalize on a pivotal opportunity to weaken or destroy a long term enemy. MAGA Republicans continue to act toward the best interests of Russia, rather than the United States. Which is likely why Russia devotes so many resources to supporting Republicans.

Russian intervention in our democracy to facilitate MAGA has been probably the most damaging foreign attack in US history. MAGA cult is tearing the country apart.

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Also fuck off with this racist shit
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Old 05-23-2023, 04:22 PM
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And today, their Republican operatives are working as hard as they can to push us off a debt cliff, further weakening our global standing. So you'll have to understand that this isn't business as usual Republican vs Democrat, this is patriot versus literal traitors, undermining our ability to capitalize on a pivotal opportunity to weaken or destroy a long term enemy.
What would you consider a reasonable ask in exchange for raising the debt limit by $X trillion?
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