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[Trexller]

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I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies. A society run by assholes isn't a society.

i get what you're saying but you aren't helping yourself or anyone else by adhering to falsehoods and half truths.

I can tell you're smarter then that.

Trump's line from the access hollywood tape is speaking with regard to "Gold Digging Sluts" in which he states verbatim that "They let you grab them by the pussy" This is colloquially referred to as "Guy Talk" among real men. the other guy in the video is Billy Bush (yes, that bush) and he is a friend of Trumps who got railroaded out of his job over the tape which he did not intend to use

Leftist burned down buildings in many cities during his first presidency

The FBI emptied out boxes onto the floor and then took pictures as if that's how they found it, every single former president is in possession of classified documents

Trump never told kemp to manufacture enough votes to secure a win, "find the votes" was a reference to asking Brad Raffensperger the georgia secretary of state to investigate the discrepancy between expected voter turnout and the published results

you don't have to believe me you can look it up yourself if you want

or you could just observe that after the entire weight of the US justice department came down on trump, the only thing they could pin on him is porn star hush money, which was only a crime based on some white collar questionable book keeping that most businesses are guilty of.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two dominant, competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies. A society run by assholes isn't a society.

Do you think you reckon Freddy Nietz will still be remembered in 2000 years?

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[shovelquest]

Soon the Ai party is gonna be rocking....

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[Trexller]

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Soon the Ai party is gonna be rocking....

I'm pretty sure that any politician who is a mouthpiece for AI is gonna get destroyed by any human being who says, "I speak my own words"

especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel

those who think that software governing based on raw data is a good idea are the small minority of voters who would rather be told how to think rather then figure out reality for themselves. these are the same voters who don't care what their leadership does as long as the press conferences are "presidential" and says the right lines at the right times.

the same types of people who desire authority, as long as it doesn't have to be themselves

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure that any politician who is a mouthpiece for AI is gonna get destroyed by any human being who says, "I speak my own words"

especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel

those who think that software governing based on raw data is a good idea are the small minority of voters who would rather be told how to think rather then figure out reality for themselves. these are the same voters who don't care what their leadership does as long as the press conferences are "presidential" and says the right lines at the right times.

the same types of people who desire authority, as long as it doesn't have to be themselves

Im really hoping that as quickly chatGPT came out of nowhere that nerualink cures cancer and stops aging thanks to a ASI that figured that out and the ASI basically asks us to let it take over and offers like basically eternal life in exchange.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im really hoping that as quickly chatGPT came out of nowhere that nerualink cures cancer and stops aging thanks to a ASI that figured that out and the ASI basically asks us to let it take over and offers like basically eternal life in exchange.

it's not thinking at all tho, it's identifying patterns in ridiculously large data sets, it's not gonna come up with a workable real-world solution to questions like, "how should we write laws for 300 million people who all have different social goals in life"

it does things like, "find the tree that is exactly 25 feet and 7 inches tall" in this picture of a mountain

AI in the medical field will definitely revolutionize things, like a doctor will prepare a data set about a patient, then the AI will compare that to the entire world's worth of medical data, and often find patterns that the human doctor would need a very long time to discover.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not thinking at all tho, it's identifying patterns in ridiculously large data sets, it's not gonna come up with a workable real-world solution to questions like, "how should we write laws for 300 million people who all have different social goals in life"

it does things like, "find the tree that is exactly 25 feet and 7 inches tall" in this picture of a mountain

Doesn't need to think, it's just a really smart bot. That can tell itself find the cure for cancer, and develop and integrate the best system of goverment.

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AI in the medical field will definitely revolutionize things, like a doctor will prepare a data set about a patient, then the AI will compare that to the entire world's worth of medical data, and often find patterns that the human doctor would need a very long time to discover.

[Ekco]

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especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel

yeah when you really break it down, it's just a handful of applications we already had just slightly improved and packaged together

the chatbot part of it is from the mid 60s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA "A 2023 preprint reported that ELIZA beat OpenAI's GPT-3.5, the model used by ChatGPT at the time, in a Turing test study. However, it did not outperform GPT-4 or real humans."

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it's a slighty better Search Engine sorta...when it feels like it, which is more about how shitty google has gotten over the years, where every time your trying to find a answer to something you'd write "reddit" at the end to just find the posts of actual humans discussing the problem instead of a page and a half of ads / clickbait articles.

i had it summarize all the amazon reviews and other reviews to pick a product for me the other day so that was kinda useful cause i didn't want to actual read about which Chinese car battery charger caught fire the least out of this 10 i had it look up, the email summarizing is useful

the only real actual improvement is the ML, machine learning part, that started with the chess programs and ended with whatever crazy game AlphaGo is training on currently, and AlphaGo started in 2015 and beat a 10dan w/e Go player in 2018 or something like that and that's the tech they used to make the image generating stuff and everyone filling out image capachas helped build the training data for it, which is the same shit used for Self driving cars


and all the creative writing generator shit is old as balls also.

[shovelquest]

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[Ekco]

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[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] btw, "dating in 2030"

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the kids are already dating in those VR chatrooms with fucked up Furry / anime avatars, it's 10x more weird than that Second life game from a long time ago, Twitch has an insane amount of them streaming also, it's an entire industry right now of people making custom models for people, shit's literally straight out of the book Snow Crash

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